Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations. Trish Sherson is from corporate affairs firm Sherson Willis, and a former ACT press secretary.

Neale Jones and Trish Sherson talk to Kathryn about what to expect from the political week including mounting calls to move to alert level one, as deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters breaks ranks to criticise the continuation of level two. Also, it's early days for the new National party leadership, how is Todd Muller doing?

Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations. Trish Sherson is from corporate affairs firm Sherson Willis, and a former ACT press secretary.

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