Stephen, Brigitte and Kathryn discuss the ongoing management of Covid as the trans Tasman bubble takes off. Stephen Mills is the executive director of UMR Research , which is the polling firm used by Labour. He is former political adviser to two Labour governments. Brigitte Morten is a senior consultant with public and commercial law firm Franks & Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government.

Stephen, Brigitte and Kathryn discuss the ongoing management of Covid as the trans Tasman bubble takes off.

Stephen Mills is the executive director of UMR Research , which is the polling firm used by Labour. He is former political adviser to two Labour governments.

Brigitte Morten is a senior consultant with public and commercial law firm Franks & Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government.

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