Stephen, Trish and Kathryn discuss the first post-election poll which is bad news for National, the challenges for ACT working out its strategy and the Trans Tasman bubble not happening before February. Stephen Mills is the executive director of UMR Research, which is the polling firm used by Labour. He is former political adviser to two Labour governments. Trish Sherson is from corporate affairs firm Sherson Willis, and a former ACT press secretary.

Stephen, Trish and Kathryn discuss the first post-election poll which is bad news for National, the challenges for ACT working out its strategy and the Trans Tasman bubble not happening before February.

Stephen Mills is the executive director of UMR Research, which is the polling firm used by Labour. He is former political adviser to two Labour governments.

Trish Sherson is from corporate affairs firm Sherson Willis, and a former ACT press secretary.

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