Sue and Tim join Paddy to talk about yesterday's National Party conference, where Prime Minister Christopher Luxon announced plans to fast-track changes to the maths curriculum in the wake of what he labelled "appalling" results of Year 8 students.

Sue Moroney is a former Labour MP and now chief executive of Community Law Centres Aotearoa.

Tim Hurdle is a former National senior adviser, was the National Party Campaign Director in 2020. He is a director of several companies, including Museum Street Strategies, a public affairs firm.

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