Bill Curtis and Jane Albrecht discuss cybersecurity with author and tech-wiz, David Holtzman. They dive deep into the Colonial Pipeline Hack, ransomware, and Solar Winds. You’ll learn about the capabilities of Russia, China, and other nations in the cyber-wars. Do you want to know what Zero Day means, who’s DarkSide, Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear?... which software is the safest, Apple or Microsoft? And how wars will be fought in the future? This two-part series on cyber-intelligence will certainly deliver.
 Episode Timestamps:
 3:16 Why do countries get hacked? David Holtzman is a world-class information technologist, currently working with global block chain companies, with deep expertise in privacy, encryption, ethics, cybersecurity, digital registries and intellectual property.
 5:05 The Colonial Pipeline Hack
 6:16 Panic Buying and Hacks (DarkSide)
 9:19 Two Types of Hackers
 10:30 Negotiating with Hackers
 11:08 The Solar Winds Hack and Russia
 12:54 Deduction and knowing who’s the Hacker
 14:34 Tracking what information was hacked
 16:16 How to handle the backdoor second hack attack
 17:45 Lessons Learned from Hackers and USA Cyber intelligence
 20:36 Trump and classified intelligence
 21:36 Do we have proof that Trump passed info onto the Russians?
 23:36 What is Zero Day?
 24:54 Apple vs Microsoft and Hacking
 28:02 Mutual assured annihilation
 29:50 Ramifications of Hacking
 32:44 Cold War References and destruction
 34:00 Defending against Russian Aggression 
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