Pratap Bhanu Mehta is Senior Fellow at the Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi and Laurence Rockefeller Visiting Professor for Distinguished Teaching at Princeton University.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Pratap Mehta discuss nationalism, radical forms of self-identity, and the likelihood of war between India and Pakistan.

Note: The first part of this conversation was recorded on April 30, 2025 with a follow up on May 12, 2025.

Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay.

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