• Part One: The costs of acknowledging a pandemic, with Annie Lowrey of The Atlantic (at the 3:29 mark); find her report, "Quantifying the Coming Recession," here.
• Part Two: On China's initiative and trustworthiness, with Peter W. Singer of New America (at 12:34); find Singer's two pieces on China here and here;
• Part Three: The downside of ‘America First’ and the upside of America, with Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute (at 27:56); find her op-ed, "'America First' Is Making the Pandemic Worse," here.

This episode is sponsored by Booz Allen Hamilton.