We have a record-breaker on the podcast this week! It's Eva Echo's third appearance on A Gay And A NonGay, which puts her in a class of her own!

Eva is a trans activity, NHS campaigner and is the Director of Innovation at Birmingham Pride.

On this episode, James, Dan and Eva talk about pride as a protest amid rising transphobia in UK politics, the recent UK Supreme Court ruling on gender identity and the Download Festival toilet controversy.

Plus, the hosts explore the difficulty of self-recognition and appreciation for activists.

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