Another round of bloodletting in the world of podcasting and public radio. NPR listenership is down 15-20%, and the excuses the industry is relying on wither, don't apply, or are flat out wrong. Mike offers a path to course correction that he doubts his old colleagues will take. But one public broadcaster is crushing it ... the BBC. Could this be because Mike is prominently featured in Episode 3 of Helen Lewis Has Left The Chat? And we're joined by Emily Blout, author of Media and Power in Modern Iran to talk about her recent article, "The Disturbing Rise of Strategic Antisemitism."

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