As Ukraine braces for a fourth week of war, Syria marks 11 years of brutal fighting. The same Russian bombs pounding Kharkiv have been continually used against Syrian cities like Idlib and Aleppo since Vladimir Putin intervened in 2015. In this podcast, Anand Gopal, award-winning journalist and author of “No Good Men Among the Living: America, the Taliban, and the War through Afghan Eyes,” joins New Lines Magazine's Faisal Al Yafai to discuss Russia’s wars. They talk about how the intervention in Syria may be a blueprint for the war in Ukraine, why the anti-war movement has struggled to adapt to a multipolar world and why Ukraine will not be Russia’s Afghanistan. Produced by Joshua Martin