Dr. Jane Goodall has an insightful and meaningful conversation with her good friend, Her Excellency Razan Khalifa Al Mubarak, the Managing Director of the Mohamed bin Zayed Species Conservation Fund. Razan has devoted her life to advocating for biodiversity protection solutions working both with governments all over the world and also with companies in the private sector. Jane and Razan reminisce over their eight years of friendship and collaboration, from establishing Roots & Shoots in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to traveling to the desert to learn about the conservation efforts started by the first Sheikh and Founder of the UAE, Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan. Together, they discuss the importance of finding solutions that benefit communities and how modern society, just like nature, is most resilient when it is diverse. Razan distinguishes the crucial need to fight for action for both biodiversity and climate change and she shares a quote from one of her favorite authors, Elif Shafak, that echoes both her and Jane’s perspective on the future of this fight: “We need pessimism of the mind and optimism of the heart.”

At the End of the Rainbow: Stay to the end of the episode to hear a rare archival clip of Jane reflecting on our planet's two "lungs."

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