As our literary season continues, in this classic episode, Cally talks to journalist, writer & author Kathleen Wyatt about lying, dying, drugs, love, neuroplasticity, linguistics, spies, double agents, travel, journalism, coming out, growing up, getting uncomfortable, Al Qaeda and puppies.

Kathleen's book ⁠The Social Superpower - the

Instagram: ⁠@kathleenwyattbooks⁠

⁠The Mauritanian

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