(Disclaimer: Adult language and content)

In this episode of The Frankie & Jess Podcast, we dive into the messy, beautiful, complicated reality of the holidays, relationships, grief, nostalgia, and trying to control the only thing we actually can… our reactions.

Frankie opens up about teaching Axel one of life’s greatest lessons:

You can’t control everything — but you can control how you react.

And how learning that (at 51!) finally brought him peace.

Jess talks about how 2020 reshaped friendships, family dynamics, loneliness, social media personas, and how many people still haven’t recovered from the emotional whiplash. We get into protecting your peace without isolating, knowing when to step back, and when someone’s identity has become “debating politics forever.”

And just when things get deep…

A full-on squirrel situation unfolds outside the window.

Tail flicking, tree shaking, Rusty beefing — an absolutely perfect Frankie & Jess derailment.

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