Real estate headlines have been dominated by uncertainty, from higher interest rates to shifting valuations and tightened liquidity. But for investors, the real question is what all of this means for the next phase of the cycle. In this episode, host Rob Olsen, Head of Nicola Wealth Private Capital, speaks with Mark Hannah, Head of Real Estate at Nicola Wealth, about the current state of the real estate market.

With more than 40 years of experience navigating rising rates, recessions, and recoveries, Mark shares a long-term perspective on how real estate cycles typically unfold and what indicators he's watching closely today. The conversation covers the areas shaping investor outcomes right now, including the state of debt markets, the impact of valuations, how liquidity is evolving, and why redemption activity has increased across the industry.

For investors looking to understand where real estate may be heading next, this episode offers a clear, grounded view of a sector in transition and what patience and preparedness can mean over the long term.