Episode Overview:In Episode 72 of Real Human Design Stories, Kathy Bochonko interviews Amanda Horvath, a videographer turned Human Design Analyst who is passionately blending her filmmaking skills with her love for Human Design. This episode delves into Amanda’s intriguing journey from video creation to Human Design and her exciting endeavor of creating a documentary about the early adopters of Human Design. Join us as Amanda shares how she helps entrepreneurs decode their charts, connect to divine guidance, and master the frequency of self from a felt experience.

Timestamps & Key Topics:

• 00:00:30 - Meeting Amanda Horvath

• 00:08:50 - Certification versus pioneering her own path

• 00:15:50 - The role of projectors in business and leveraging AI for verbal processing

• 00:23:30 - Visionary energy of individual circuitry • 00:30:00 - How interviews with early adopters have shaped Amanda’s view of Human Design

• 00:36:10 - Discussing the upcoming mutations and 2027 shifts

• 00:49:32 - Amanda’s documentary project on Human Design’s early adopters

• 00:50:28 - Exploring Amanda’s 4/1 profile and its implications

• 01:06:48 - Connecting with Amanda Horvath

Episodes Mentioned:

• Episode 69 with Barbara Ditlow

• Episode 56 with Leigh Ann Wolf

• Episode 71 with Brandy Jordan

Connect with Amanda Horvath:

• Website: frequencyofself.com

• YouTube: youtube.com/@amandahorvath

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• Website: kathybochonko.com

• Email: [email protected]

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Additional Resources:

• Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust – Energy Centers Edition

• Join the Intuitive Human Design Facebook Group

This episode provides invaluable insights for anyone interested in leveraging their unique design to thrive in business and life, showcasing how a Projector can navigate the business world with grace and effectiveness.

In Episode 71 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Brandy Jordan, a 6/2 Splenic Manifestor with an Ego Motor, co-founder of Emerge by Design, and an expert in Human Design, Gene Keys, astrology, psychology, and shamanic wisdom.

Brandy’s story is powerful, raw, and deeply inspiring. She shares how she reclaimed her body, her truth, and her joy through deep experimentation, embodiment, and a profound trust in herself.

One of the most important themes we explored was what it means to be a Manifestor without any Manifestor channels—a design that defies the traditional Manifestor experience. We discuss how every design is unique, and the importance of experimenting with your energy rather than letting someone else define what it means to be you.

Brandy also gives us a glimpse into her beautiful relationship with Richard Corbett, the love she knew was coming before she met him, and how their work together in Awaken, Unfold, Mastery helps others break free from conditioning.

⏳ 00:00:30 - Introduction

⏳ 00:03:45 - Brandy’s Impactful & Shocking Story

⏳ 00:11:40 - How Human Design Came Into Brandy’s Life

⏳ 00:14:41 - Following the Wisdom of Her Body

⏳ 00:25:05 - The Power of the 26-44 & a Completely Defined Will Center

⏳ 00:28:20 - Being a Manifestor with Only Projector Channels & Redefining What It Means to Be a Manifestor

⏳ 00:36:36 - The Importance of Experimentation vs. Being Told How to Operate

⏳ 00:43:10 - Her Hypocritical Third Line Phase

⏳ 00:49:24 - Finding Her Beloved: Richard Corbett.

⏳ 00:57:30 - Brandy & Richard’s Programs: Awaken, Unfold, MasteryResources & Ways to Connect

💻 Connect with Brandy Jordan & Emerge by Design – https://www.emergebydesign.net

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This episode is not to be missed if you’re craving a real, raw, and deeply embodied perspective on Human Design, self-trust, and true transformation.

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In Episode 70 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Naomi Fox Reina, a 2/5 Emotional Projector with a Triple Split and the Right Angle Cross of Planning.

Naomi’s story is deeply rooted in her faith and divine guidance. She shares how she felt called by God to bring Light-Filled Astrology™ into the world, later expanding her teachings to Light-Filled Human Design™. Her mission is to show people that they don’t have to choose between spirituality, esoteric wisdom, and their faith-based communities—they can hold both.

Join me as I sit down with Barbara Ditlow, a certified Human Design Analyst, Coach, and Teacher, who brings over 22 years of experience in the Human Design experiment. Barbara’s unique insights draw from her work with Ra Uru Hu, Eckhart Tolle, and a wealth of knowledge in astrology, energy healing, and Feng Shui.

Barbara shares the transformative power of following invitations radically and how it shaped her journey as a 2/4 Self-Projected Projector. Together, we explore the messiness of conditioning, the significance of listening to your body, and the art of authentic self-expression in both fashion and home environments.

💡 In This Episode:

 • 00:00:30 – Meet Barbara Ditlow

 • 00:06:45 – Working with Ra and Eckhart Tolle

 • 00:16:10 – The Messiness of Conditioning

 • 00:21:30 – More on Eckhart Tolle and the significance of being born in 1948

 • 00:27:10 – Purpose and listening to our bodies and knowing when to say no

 • 00:42:42 – Sleep Rituals: Struggling to embrace what we know is important

 • 00:47:58 – Authentic self-expression in fashion and homes

 • 00:56:24 – Final Five: A new series of five questions

 💬 Key Takeaways:

 • Radical Invitations: Barbara’s philosophy on embracing invitations with full trust and alignment.

 • Conditioning Is Messy: Why undoing societal and personal conditioning is vital to living authentically.

 • Authentic Expression: How honoring your design shapes your outward style, home, and environment.

 • Rest as a Struggle: Both Barbara and I discuss the ongoing challenge of prioritizing healthy sleep habits.

 • Insights on 2027:

 🗓 Barbara’s Talk on 2027 – January 26, 2025, at 2 PM EST

Barbara will be sharing her insights about the global changes on the horizon for 2027 in a special Zoom session with Jess Tilly and me

Join the conversation live January 26, 2027 2pm est here

Meeting ID: 915 6661 6547

Passcode: 2027

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In this solo episode, Kathy Bochonko reflects on her transformative journey in 2024, exploring how her Word of the Year, “Trust,” evolved into “Radical Self-Trust.” Through three personal stories, Kathy shares how she leaned into self-trust to make bold moves in her business and life. She also looks ahead to 2025, revealing her new Word of the Year, “Simplify,” and introducing an exciting free challenge, Shine Your Light: A 5-Day Style Challenge.

Whether you’re ready to embrace self-trust or seek inspiration for your own growth, this episode will leave you

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

 • How choosing the word “trust” for 2024 sparked a journey of radical self-trust.

 • The role self-trust played in launching the Real Human Design Stories Podcast.

 • Highlights from Kathy’s transformative experience at the Human Design Conference.

 • Why combining her love of fashion with Human Design became a defining moment in her business.

 • Insights into Kathy’s Word of the Year for 2025: Simplify—and what it means for moving forward with clarity.

 • An invitation to join Kathy’s free Shine Your Light: A 5-Day Style Challenge, starting January 21, 2025.

Chapter Breakdown:

 00:00:31 - Choosing the word “trust” for the past year and its evolution to “radical self-trust.”

00:02:05 - Radical Self-Trust Example #1: Launching this podcast and hiring Number Three Productions for production support.

00:05:53 - Radical Self-Trust Example #2: Experience at the Human Design Conference.

00:15:01 - Radical Self-Trust Example #3: Bringing my love of fashion back into my business.

00:19:00 - Shine Your Light: A Free Five-Day Style Confidence Challenge starting January 21, 2025.

00:22:35 - Discussion on choosing my 2025 Word of the Year: Simplify.

00:24:30 - Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust.

00:28:35 - Closing thoughts and gratitude.

 00:30:03 - Chatty Kathy’s in the Groove.

 Resources & Links Mentioned:

 • Shine Your Light: A Free 5-Day Style Confidence Challenge 

⁠https://kathybochonko.com/5-day-shine-your-light-challenge/⁠

 • Your Ultimate Human Design Guide to Radical Self-Trust

⁠https://kathybochonko.com/shop/full-collection-your-ultimate-human-design-guide-to-radical-self-trust/⁠

 • Blog Post: Shine Bright in 2025 - A Step-by-Step Guide to Finding Your 2025 Word of the Year

⁠https://kathybochonko.com/blog/shine-bright-in-2025-a-step-by-step-guide-to-finding-your-2025-word-of-the-year/⁠

Stay Connected:

For more information on the podcast and additional resources, visit ⁠RealHumanDesignStories.com⁠.

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In this episode, I talk with the effervescent Jess Tilly, a 4/6 Sacral Generator and Right Angle Cross of the Four Ways. Jess shares her inspiring journey of self-discovery and transformation, guided by her sacral response and human design. We explore her experiences of finding alignment, the synchronicities that led her to Ibiza, and her powerful work with alchemizing dreams and navigating life’s pivots.

Discover how Jess uses human design to embrace her path, trust the process, and honor the magic of living authentically. She also introduces her Human Design New Year Workbook, a practical tool to close out cycles and set intentions for the year ahead. 

Topics Covered:

00:01:59 Jess Tilly introduces Her Story

00:09:13 Jess explores her Sacral Response

00:15:36 The Missing Piece in Alchemizing Your Dreams

00:19:07 Ibiza Magic and synchronicities leading up to it

00:27:51 Richard Beaumont

00:36:03 Human Design and Radical Self-Trust

00:37:27 Pivot to the Right Angle Cross of the Four Ways

00:43:58 Jess’s New Year Workbook

00:48:22 Quantum Human Design: The Gate of Imagination

00:52:34 The Transits: How They Affect Us

00:56:44 Closing thoughts with Jess at Corecalling.com

Key Themes:

 • It gets to happen.

 • Shooting your arrow into the unknown.

 • Closing out the cycle.

 • Trusting the magic within.

 Resources:

 • Connect with Jess Tilly: corecalling.com

 • Download Jess’s Human Design New Year Workbook: corecalling.com/hdnewyear

 • Sign up for Kathy’s Shine Your Light: A 5-Day Style Challenge and stay in the loop about upcoming

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Erin Payne is a 1/3 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the

In this episode, Erin shares how she stepped away from a

We dive into:

• Leaving the Mormon Church and rediscovering her voice

• Her first Human Design reading and how it changed her

• Transforming her marriage by embracing her and her

• How we worked together to align her personal style with

• The ripple effect of her transformation on her husband and

This conversation is a powerful testament to the life-changing possibilities of embracing your truth and letting your light shine.

Chapter Titles

00:00:30 Meet Erin Payne

00:02:45 Erin Shares Her Story of Leaving the Mormon Church

00:14:57 Human Design Enters Erin’s Life

0:25:20 Integrating Human Design

00:29:50 Erin’s New Marriage Paradigm

00:35:19 How Erin’s Experiment Changed Her Relationship With Her Projector Husband

00:36:42 Sam and Erin Started Tapping Through Difficulties

00:47:06 Outer Visions, Aesthetics, and Deconditioning Your

00:49:35 Erin Talks About Shedding Her Mormon Garments and Embracing Her Sense of Style

00:55:01 Feeling Safe to Be Moody

01:00:09 How These Changes Impact Erin’s Kids

01:02:31 Thank You for Sharing Your Story

During our work together, I guided Erin in reconnecting with

If Erin’s story inspires you, it’s time for the world to see you shine your light. I’m launching an 8-week group program in January (currently in beta) to help align your outward expression with the inner work you’ve been doing. Email me at [email protected] to get on the waitlist and be among the first to know when enrollment opens. 

Contact Erin Payne

Website: theerinmichelle.com

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In Episode 65 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Karen McMullen, a 4/6 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Karen’s journey is nothing short of transformative. In 2014, she had what most people dream of: a thriving business, a loving relationship, good health, and a life of adventure. Yet, she felt drained and disconnected. 

Discovering Human Design sparked a profound awakening for Karen, leading her on a decade-long journey of healing, self-discovery, and reclaiming her joy. Today, she helps clients gain the confidence and clarity to launch their next-level creations and make the impact they were born to make.

Karen is also an accomplished author, having written multiple channeled books, with her latest project focusing on Generators and Manifesting Generators. Her YouTube channel, where she shares Human Design insights, receives over 800 views daily, offering a steady stream of inspiration and education. Originally from Canada, Karen now lives a life filled with creativity and passion, often salsa dancing in Havana.

Timestamps:

00:00:30 Introducing Karen McMullen

00:2:06 Karen’s Story

00:09:19 Tearing Down Her Life and Going on the Roof

00:16:56 Embracing Sexual Potential

00:20:25 Channeling Her Book

00:27:42 The Projector’s Critical Need to Alchemize

00:35:13 Dancing in Havana

00:39:11 Talking About Driving Down to Florida

00:42:56 Karen’s Experience With Channeling

00:47:36 The Frequency Transmission of Human Design

00:54:47 How to Work With Karen

Key Insights:

 • Being in the Now and Trusting Perfect Timing

 • Embracing the Sleeping Phoenix Energy to Rebuild Your Life

 • “Until You Claim Your Gift, Your Gift is a Problem”

 • How to Alchemize Bitterness as a Projector

 • Are You Alive or Not?!

Connect with Karen:

Website: KarenMcMullen.ca

YouTube: Karen McMullen

Instagram: @iamkarenmcmullen

Connect with Kathy:

Website: KathyBochonko.com

Instagram: @KathyBochonko

Facebook Community: Intuitive Human Design

If Karen’s story resonates with you and you’re ready to dive deeper into your own Human Design, I’d love to support you on your journey. Whether you’re exploring your unique design or seeking mentorship, let’s connect and discover how to align with your truth.

In this special solo episode of Real Human Design Stories,

I talk about the challenges of letting go, embracing rest, and learning to recognize ourselves beyond the validation of others. After a season of deep engagement and excitement from presenting at two recent Human Design conferences, I came home to a surprising inner request—to simply rest.

In this episode, I explore what it means to hold radical self-trust during times of rest and to trust that our worth isn’t dependent on constant action.

So, if you’ve been feeling the pressure to keep up, stay visible, or “push through” when your body is calling for a break, join me as we unpack the importance of tuning in and trusting ourselves.

Timestamps:

00:00:29 – Introduction to the Episode – Need for Some

00:04:40 – Finding Clarity Amidst the Urge to Do More

00:05:18 – Reflections on My Recent Human Design Conference Experiences

00:10:03 – The Call to Slow Down & Melancholy as a

00:14:48 – Embracing Radical Self-Trust during Uncertain

00:17:12 – Outro

Key Insights:

The importance of rest and honoring your body’s signals,

Understanding that real recognition comes when we’re not seeking it—it finds us naturally.

Radical self-trust isn’t about certainty; it’s about

Letting go of the need to “perform” or be visible all the

If this message resonates, and you're ready to explore your Human Design journey, I’d love to support you in learning how to honor your

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In this Real Human Design Stories episode 63, I sit down

We chat about the life-changing moment when Eden’s body told her to quit her nursing job- 6 weeks after getting her license! and how she navigated that decision through her Emotional Authority. Eden also shares insights into being a Triple Split, explaining how this influences her decision-making process and how she integrates various aspects of herself. She dives into the challenges of embodying her identity with an undefined G center, and how the energy of her Mercury gates shapes her self-expression.

Our conversation explores the evolving Human Design

Timestamps:

00:00:30 – Human Design: Meet Eden Carpenter

00:08:02 – The Changing Human Design Landscape

00:11:06 – Human Design Variables and Our Learning Styles

00:17:39 – When Your Body Says Quit Your Nursing Job

00:21:05 – Eden Explains How Her Triple Split Works with Her Emotional Authority

00:26:48 – The Channel 17-62

00:31:11 – Eden Talks About Her Mercury Gates and Personal Identity

00:38:53 – Going On The Roof: The 6th Line Profile

00:49:48 – Neurodivergency, Human Design, and Individualism

00:58:09 – Showing Up As Yourself: Personal Style

01:02:00 – How to Work with Eden

Key Insights:

Listening to your body’s signals when it’s time for change

Navigating Emotional Awareness as a Triple Split

Embracing Individualism through Human Design

How neurodivergency and Human Design intersect

Finding alignment through radical self-trust

Connect with Eden:

Website: https://www.edencarpenter.com/

If Eden’s story resonated with you and you’re ready to