In this episode, I talk with the effervescent Jess Tilly, a 4/6 Sacral Generator and Right Angle Cross of the Four Ways. Jess shares her inspiring journey of self-discovery and transformation, guided by her sacral response and human design. We explore her experiences of finding alignment, the synchronicities that led her to Ibiza, and her powerful work with alchemizing dreams and navigating life’s pivots.

Discover how Jess uses human design to embrace her path, trust the process, and honor the magic of living authentically. She also introduces her Human Design New Year Workbook, a practical tool to close out cycles and set intentions for the year ahead. 

Topics Covered:

00:01:59 Jess Tilly introduces Her Story

00:09:13 Jess explores her Sacral Response

00:15:36 The Missing Piece in Alchemizing Your Dreams

00:19:07 Ibiza Magic and synchronicities leading up to it

00:27:51 Richard Beaumont

00:36:03 Human Design and Radical Self-Trust

00:37:27 Pivot to the Right Angle Cross of the Four Ways

00:43:58 Jess’s New Year Workbook

00:48:22 Quantum Human Design: The Gate of Imagination

00:52:34 The Transits: How They Affect Us

00:56:44 Closing thoughts with Jess at Corecalling.com

Key Themes:

 • It gets to happen.

 • Shooting your arrow into the unknown.

 • Closing out the cycle.

 • Trusting the magic within.

 Resources:

 • Connect with Jess Tilly: corecalling.com

 • Download Jess’s Human Design New Year Workbook: corecalling.com/hdnewyear

 • Sign up for Kathy’s Shine Your Light: A 5-Day Style Challenge and stay in the loop about upcoming

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Erin Payne is a 1/3 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the

In this episode, Erin shares how she stepped away from a

We dive into:

• Leaving the Mormon Church and rediscovering her voice

• Her first Human Design reading and how it changed her

• Transforming her marriage by embracing her and her

• How we worked together to align her personal style with

• The ripple effect of her transformation on her husband and

This conversation is a powerful testament to the life-changing possibilities of embracing your truth and letting your light shine.

Chapter Titles

00:00:30 Meet Erin Payne

00:02:45 Erin Shares Her Story of Leaving the Mormon Church

00:14:57 Human Design Enters Erin’s Life

0:25:20 Integrating Human Design

00:29:50 Erin’s New Marriage Paradigm

00:35:19 How Erin’s Experiment Changed Her Relationship With Her Projector Husband

00:36:42 Sam and Erin Started Tapping Through Difficulties

00:47:06 Outer Visions, Aesthetics, and Deconditioning Your

00:49:35 Erin Talks About Shedding Her Mormon Garments and Embracing Her Sense of Style

00:55:01 Feeling Safe to Be Moody

01:00:09 How These Changes Impact Erin’s Kids

01:02:31 Thank You for Sharing Your Story

During our work together, I guided Erin in reconnecting with

If Erin’s story inspires you, it’s time for the world to see you shine your light. I’m launching an 8-week group program in January (currently in beta) to help align your outward expression with the inner work you’ve been doing. Email me at [email protected] to get on the waitlist and be among the first to know when enrollment opens. 

Contact Erin Payne

Website: theerinmichelle.com

Contact Me

Website: kathybochonko.com

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In Episode 65 of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Karen McMullen, a 4/6 Emotional Manifesting Generator with the Right Angle Cross of the Sleeping Phoenix. Karen’s journey is nothing short of transformative. In 2014, she had what most people dream of: a thriving business, a loving relationship, good health, and a life of adventure. Yet, she felt drained and disconnected. 

Discovering Human Design sparked a profound awakening for Karen, leading her on a decade-long journey of healing, self-discovery, and reclaiming her joy. Today, she helps clients gain the confidence and clarity to launch their next-level creations and make the impact they were born to make.

Karen is also an accomplished author, having written multiple channeled books, with her latest project focusing on Generators and Manifesting Generators. Her YouTube channel, where she shares Human Design insights, receives over 800 views daily, offering a steady stream of inspiration and education. Originally from Canada, Karen now lives a life filled with creativity and passion, often salsa dancing in Havana.

Timestamps:

00:00:30 Introducing Karen McMullen

00:2:06 Karen’s Story

00:09:19 Tearing Down Her Life and Going on the Roof

00:16:56 Embracing Sexual Potential

00:20:25 Channeling Her Book

00:27:42 The Projector’s Critical Need to Alchemize

00:35:13 Dancing in Havana

00:39:11 Talking About Driving Down to Florida

00:42:56 Karen’s Experience With Channeling

00:47:36 The Frequency Transmission of Human Design

00:54:47 How to Work With Karen

Key Insights:

 • Being in the Now and Trusting Perfect Timing

 • Embracing the Sleeping Phoenix Energy to Rebuild Your Life

 • “Until You Claim Your Gift, Your Gift is a Problem”

 • How to Alchemize Bitterness as a Projector

 • Are You Alive or Not?!

Connect with Karen:

Website: KarenMcMullen.ca

YouTube: Karen McMullen

Instagram: @iamkarenmcmullen

Connect with Kathy:

Website: KathyBochonko.com

Instagram: @KathyBochonko

Facebook Community: Intuitive Human Design

If Karen’s story resonates with you and you’re ready to dive deeper into your own Human Design, I’d love to support you on your journey. Whether you’re exploring your unique design or seeking mentorship, let’s connect and discover how to align with your truth.

In this special solo episode of Real Human Design Stories,

I talk about the challenges of letting go, embracing rest, and learning to recognize ourselves beyond the validation of others. After a season of deep engagement and excitement from presenting at two recent Human Design conferences, I came home to a surprising inner request—to simply rest.

In this episode, I explore what it means to hold radical self-trust during times of rest and to trust that our worth isn’t dependent on constant action.

So, if you’ve been feeling the pressure to keep up, stay visible, or “push through” when your body is calling for a break, join me as we unpack the importance of tuning in and trusting ourselves.

Timestamps:

00:00:29 – Introduction to the Episode – Need for Some

00:04:40 – Finding Clarity Amidst the Urge to Do More

00:05:18 – Reflections on My Recent Human Design Conference Experiences

00:10:03 – The Call to Slow Down & Melancholy as a

00:14:48 – Embracing Radical Self-Trust during Uncertain

00:17:12 – Outro

Key Insights:

The importance of rest and honoring your body’s signals,

Understanding that real recognition comes when we’re not seeking it—it finds us naturally.

Radical self-trust isn’t about certainty; it’s about

Letting go of the need to “perform” or be visible all the

If this message resonates, and you're ready to explore your Human Design journey, I’d love to support you in learning how to honor your

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In this Real Human Design Stories episode 63, I sit down

We chat about the life-changing moment when Eden’s body told her to quit her nursing job- 6 weeks after getting her license! and how she navigated that decision through her Emotional Authority. Eden also shares insights into being a Triple Split, explaining how this influences her decision-making process and how she integrates various aspects of herself. She dives into the challenges of embodying her identity with an undefined G center, and how the energy of her Mercury gates shapes her self-expression.

Our conversation explores the evolving Human Design

Timestamps:

00:00:30 – Human Design: Meet Eden Carpenter

00:08:02 – The Changing Human Design Landscape

00:11:06 – Human Design Variables and Our Learning Styles

00:17:39 – When Your Body Says Quit Your Nursing Job

00:21:05 – Eden Explains How Her Triple Split Works with Her Emotional Authority

00:26:48 – The Channel 17-62

00:31:11 – Eden Talks About Her Mercury Gates and Personal Identity

00:38:53 – Going On The Roof: The 6th Line Profile

00:49:48 – Neurodivergency, Human Design, and Individualism

00:58:09 – Showing Up As Yourself: Personal Style

01:02:00 – How to Work with Eden

Key Insights:

Listening to your body’s signals when it’s time for change

Navigating Emotional Awareness as a Triple Split

Embracing Individualism through Human Design

How neurodivergency and Human Design intersect

Finding alignment through radical self-trust

Connect with Eden:

Website: https://www.edencarpenter.com/

If Eden’s story resonated with you and you’re ready to

In this episode of Real Human Design Stories, I sit down with Vickie Dickson, a 2/4 Emotional Manifesting Generator, known as the "Business Whisperer." With 30 years of entrepreneurial experience, Vickie has built several businesses to multiple six-figure success, and today she shares how Human Design has transformed her approach to life and business.

In this episode, I sit down with Veronica Leone, a 5/1 Emotional Manifesting Generator, who brings a beautiful blend of tarot, astrology, energy healing, and Human Design to her work. We dive into the twists and turns of her journey and explore how embracing uncertainty and following her sacral response has shaped her path.

Join me in episode 60 with Stephen Rebolledo, 4/1 Emotional Generator, Juxtaposition Cross of Ambition. Stephen is a compassionate Human Design professional, who shares his journey of over 25 years in Human Design. Having studied directly under Ra Uru Hu, Stephen provides unique insights into living your design, the concept of "Genetic Yoga," and the deep impact Human Design has had on his life and those he works with. This conversation explores self-leadership, the value of being in someone’s aura, and how Human Design is an ongoing war of attrition that helps us evolve.

Join me in episode 59 as Bella Krystal, a 4/6 Sacral Generator, RX OF THE Sphinx, shares her rich journey of self-discovery through Human Design. Bella seamlessly weaves practices from tantra, shamanism, and embodiment, alongside her extensive background in entrepreneurship and business. With experience living in seven countries and speaking six languages, Bella is a true bridge between cultures and people.

- Explore the 64 Doors: https://the64doors.com

- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/izabellayoga

- Facebook: https://facebook.com/kathy.bochonko/

- Instagram: https://instagram.com/kathybochonko/

- Watch live in the Intuitive Design Facebook group: https://facebook.com/groups/intuitivehumandesign

Join me in episode 58 as 3/5 Sacral Manifesting Generator, RAX of the Sphinx, Sean Wallbridge, shares his unique journey into Human Design. Sean has spent 3.5 years in his experiment. Sean's story embraces plant medicine, curiosity, transformation, and self-expression.

- Website: https://brainlitter.com

- Work with Sean: https://majorchange.com

Connect with me:

- Website: https://KathyBochonko.com

- Facebook: https://facebook.com/kathy.bochonko/

- Instagram: https://instagram.com/kathybochonko/