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Attention Atheists and Shroud skeptics! The evidence is in, it is now time that every rational unbeliever become Shroud Pilled. That is the name of a new book giving a neutral and fully objective survey of the Shroud evidence for and against its authenticity by Dr. Trevor Lohman, a self described Shroud Agnostic who leans toward the Pro-Shroud side- see his book now available for purchase on Amazon starting today, October 18th 2025 :)Trevor Lohman is a clinical neuroscience researcher specializing in the relationship between the cardiovascular system and neurological health. Since childhood, he has been fascinated with science and technology. With the wisdom that only age can bring, he now sees the immense value in studying history, philosophy, and theology too. He currently lives in Los Angeles with his wife and two children and enjoys trying to find the intersection between science and belief with his work.Amazon Link to His Shroud Pilled book = https://www.amazon.com/Shroud-Pilled-...Also see his other book, "God's Eye View, which proves God exists based on his extensive knowledge in neuroscience = https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Eye-View-...RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/10/18/shroud-pilled-with-neuroscientist-dr-trevor-lohman/

I'm joined by returning guest, historian Dr. Cheryl White, to talk philosophy and the Shroud in her new upcoming book (to be released by the end of November from Westbow Press). The Shroud represents an enigma or mystery which warrants the conclusion it serves as a sign to us. In this episode we go over the logic of such a conclusion vs. a mere fallacious appeal to God-of-the-gaps type reasoning.Enjoy the show Shroud fans :)Cheryl White's New Website = https://shroudstudiesproject.org/RSM Blog (with free sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/10/16/the-shroud-in-the-third-millennium-confronting-the-limits-of-human-knowledge-dr-cheryl-white/

Allan Ruhl returns to the show to follow up on a comment from a skeptic on his first show's claim that Christians were persecuted by Jews mostly during the first 1000 years of its history and that the typical Jewish claim that Christians have persecuted and oppressed the Jews for 2000 years is made up nonsense based on nothing but anti-Christian bias!Enjoy :)RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/09/03/addressing-jewish-myths-about-christianity-w-historian-allan-ruhl/

In the previous debate on God's existence between Phil Bair and Juan from Modern Atheism, the side topic of animal pain and suffering came up. I removed that section of the debate (10 mins or less total) at the request of both of the debaters to focus in on the main topic of debate.

However, Omar was passionate about the subject and wanted to discuss it further with me- here is the conversation we had!

**Note: There was a technical glitch with Zoom right in the beginning and so I didn't get the very introduction (first 2-3 mins or so) of the show and that part is left off. Again, all of the substantive parts are left in and only my customary 2-3 min introduction is missing of the show. My apologies **

RSM Blog (with free scholarly sources) = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/10/07/debate-does-god-exist-with-phil-bair-christian-vs-juan-modern-atheism/

Phil Bair returns to debate the existence of God with a newcomer to the channel, Juan from the Modern Atheism channel. They debate over the Problem of suffering, the Argument for God from Evil, the Argument from God from Human Personhood and the Argument for God from rational knowledge. Former Hindu now leaning toward Christian Theism, Omar Fakhoury, joins me as a co-host for this one and throws in his two cents in towards the end.RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/10/07/debate-does-god-exist-with-phil-bair-christian-vs-juan-modern-atheism/

My friend and Resurrection scholar, Dr. Gary Habermas, returns to the show to various objections and criticisms regarding his recently published Vol. 3 on the Resurrection as raised by skeptical scholars and popularizers alike.Gary provides clear and sound answers to these skeptics in full accordance with 1 Peter 3:15 and I believe tackles them in such a way as to leave no doubt regarding his immense knowledge and sound scholarship on this front- Vol. 3 on the various Scholarly Perspectives is an amazing resource for Resurrection research regardless of what the skeptical naysayers may try to say to the contrary!RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/05/16/the-ultimate-resurrection-panel-celebrating-the-legacy-of-gary-habermas/

Gary's Volume 3 Book = https://www.amazon.com/Scholarly-Perspectives-3-Resurrection/dp/1087778646

Co-author and fellow Christian Olivier Bonnassies joins me to talk about his European best selling book coming out on Oct 14th in North America providing the latest scientific evidence for the existence of God from a total of 12 different scientific disciplines. This one is a must watch as Olivier and his co-author interviewed over 100 Nobel Prize winners in researching for the book and even the famous Christian mathematician, Dr. John Lennox, has highly recommended the book!P.S.- For Shroud fans, I ask him toward the end about his take on the Shroud of Turin, stay tuned for his expert opinion.RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/10/02/god-the-science-the-evidence-book-with-olivier-bonnassies/

Book Website (Available on Oct 14th) = https://www.godthesciencetheevidence.com/book/

Here's Harry's take on the Biblical book of Acts.RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/01/09/harry-stark-shows-2025/

Mike visits Real Seekers to continue our conversation from our last debate on the Shroud of Turin. In this show, we discuss Mike's underlying problematic assumption that miracles are absurd or impossible to occur and I think we manage to make some headway in getting Mike to be more open minded to miracles a bit!

RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/09/26/debating-the-rationality-of-miracles-w-the-atheist-mike-from-the-evil-christianity-channel/

Harry Stark lays out the superiority of the case for Jesus Christ's historicity compared to other ancient figures from history.

RSM Blog = https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2025/01/09/harry-stark-shows-2025/