The Ringer’s Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Chuck Klosterman only need a couple smokes, a cup of coffee, and some good conversation about the 1994 coming-of-age dramedy ‘Reality Bites,’ starring Ethan Hawke, Winona Ryder, and Janeane Garofalo.

Stick around at the end of the episode to hear Bill Simmons talk to Ethan Hawke about his experience and interpretation of ‘Reality Bites’ 25 years later.