Jesus said, “I will build My church.”

Somewhere along the way, we decided to take that job from Him.

In this episode of the reChurch Podcast, we talk honestly about what happens when man tries to build the church instead of trusting Jesus to do it—and how that shift has shaped modern, business-style church organizations, marketing strategies, growth metrics, and leadership structures.

When the church becomes something we have to manage, scale, and sustain, the weight doesn’t fall on Jesus anymore—it falls on people. Pastors carry pressure they were never meant to bear. Members carry guilt, obligation, and burnout. And the simplicity of following Christ gets replaced with performance and programs.

This conversation isn’t about tearing down the church—it’s about asking a hard but necessary question: What if the burden we feel is the result of doing a job that was never ours?

If you’ve ever felt tired, disillusioned, or overwhelmed by church systems—or wondered why faith feels heavier than it should—this episode is for you.

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We challenge the picture of church as a stage and a program, and rebuild it as family around a table, a body with many parts, and a people sent into neighborhoods. Honest stories and Scripture reshape how we read Acts, handle accountability, and practice mission.

• redefining church beyond buildings and brands
• asking if we could function without Sunday services
• accountability through small, known communities
• what church is not versus what Jesus designed
• envisioning Acts 2 around the dinner table
• every member functioning as a vital part
• mission shifting to neighborhoods and workplaces
• simplifying discipleship to meals, prayer and obedience
• from where you go to who you walk with

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We push hard on a simple claim: leaving the institution is not leaving Jesus. We unpack Hebrews 10, Acts 17, and the gap between event-driven Sundays and the New Testament picture of a body that gathers to edify, equip, and multiply.

• redefining church as people and practice, not place
• context of Hebrews 10 and persecution-driven withdrawal
• why Acts 17 challenges building-centric language
• performance culture versus mutual edification
• the 501c3 model and transactional ministry incentives
• stories of deliverance, baptism, and discipleship in homes
• maturity as practicing the gifts and the mission
• making disciples while Jesus builds his church
• how to handle accusations of being rogue or rebellious
• guarding your pearls and letting fruit speak over time

Join us next time where we’re gonna talk about what is church, what is this thing that if this is what it’s not, what is it, and how do we step into that life

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We challenge the idea that leaving the institutional church equals leaving faith and map a path from spectator Christianity to a living, gift-driven community. Scripture, story, and straight talk point toward maturity, mission, and gatherings that actually edify.

• why “forsake the gathering” doesn’t mean “never leave Sunday”
• the difference between event-centered faith and body life
• gifts, accountability, and mutual edification as the point of gathering
• how 501c3 culture incentivises platform, transaction, and control
• practical fruit of table-centered ministry and simple obedience
• moving from passive consumption to disciple-making action
• handling accusations of being rogue or rebellious
• finding new friends and letting fruit speak over explanations
• season two roadmap toward reimagining and rebuilding church

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What happens when the church starts to look more like a business than the body of Christ?

In this episode, we sit down with the creators of The Religion Business—a docuseries that investigates the billion-dollar machine behind institutional Christianity. From financial abuse to misplaced power, this series pulls back the curtain on the side of church most people don’t want to talk about.

We talk with Nathan Apffel and Chris Ayoub about what led them to create this project, the resistance they faced, and the deeper heart behind the series—not to tear down the church, but to call it back to what it was always meant to be.

And in the second half of the conversation, we dig into what’s next—how we move forward with faith, hope, and integrity outside of broken systems. Whether you've been hurt by the church or you're simply searching for something more authentic, this one’s for you.

🎥 Watch the full 7-Part docuseries:
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📚 Recommended Resources to dive deeper into Organic/Simple Church:

👉 Organic Church by Neil Cole: https://amzn.to/40MylbU
👉 Organic Leadership by Neil Cole: https://amzn.to/3UMxF2o
👉 Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola: https://amzn.to/3UNWzPf



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In this episode of reChurch, we break down deliverance in simple, practical terms—no degrees, titles, or expert status required. We explore what the Bible actually says, how deliverance fits into everyday life, and why it’s not just for the spiritually elite. Whether you're curious, skeptical, or ready to step into more freedom, this conversation is for you.

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In this episode, we open up about our personal experiences with deliverance, why it still matters today scripturally, and how it fits within the greater mission of disciple-making and laying healthy foundations in the body of Christ. This isn’t about sensationalism—it’s about freedom. It’s one of the most honest and needed conversations we’ve ever had.

Whether you’ve had questions, doubts, or experiences of your own, this episode will challenge and encourage you.

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What if leaving the institutional church didn’t lead to bitterness, but to freedom and joy? In this episode, Justin and Brooke share their personal journey of stepping away from broken systems—not to critique them, but to follow Jesus into something simpler, deeper, and more alive. If you've felt the tension between tradition and truth, this conversation might be the permission your heart has been waiting for.

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The statistics of p*rn addiction in and outside the Church are staggering. Even among pastors and leaders. Today we dive into this much needed conversation with Sathiya Sam founder of DeepClean to expose the epidemic were facing and most importantly how we can overcome it.

Sathiya has helped guide over 10,000 men through freedom to become better husbands, fathers and most importantly men of God!

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Get a FREE copy of his book: https://www.sathiyasam.com/books

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So many people have been wounded by the institutional church, and it’s not just by accident—the system itself is often set up in a way that leads to hurt. In this episode, we dive deep into the reality of church hurt, why it happens so often in the American church, and how to heal without walking away from faith altogether. We share our personal journeys, the hard questions we had to wrestle with, and the steps we took to rebuild a faith that wasn’t tied to broken systems. If you’ve been disappointed, burned, or even traumatized by church, this conversation is for you. Let’s talk about what’s next. 

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