This week on the podcast we are thrilled to be joined by actress, director and friend Gillian Jacobs! Gillian and Vanessa talk about co-starring along with Phoebe Robinson in the 2018 film "Ibiza," and give some crucial behind-the-scenes info about the production, including Vanessa's mission to take as much free stuff as possible. We also discuss Gillian's respect for the public library, get a few more physical and digital book scams from Jonah and hear why staying out of trouble as a teenager is actually a really cool move. Finally we dig into Marlo Thomas' incredible creative project "Free To Be... You And Me," which had a huge impact on all of us as kids—and also learn about the time Gillian interviewed Marlo all about the project for Glamour magazine. Finally we play a round of CHANGE DOT DORK where we discuss the merits of bringing back Taco Bell's brownie sandwich, changing "knitting to gnitting" for all you Palindrome-heads and if gym class should be optional for kids who have no interest in sports and are there to actually, you know, learn. Glad to have a friend like Gillian because this is a fantastic episode!

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