Was talking with our little team on Slack the other day and realized that there have been thousands of people who started listening to this show after October of 2020, so they might not know about one of our favorite conversations.

Since I'm moderating a conference today, I'll share with you Roman Mars. In the podcast world he needs no introduction, but if you don't know Rroman is the creative force behind one of the most popular podcasts in the world - 99 Percent Invisible and many other projects.

He co-wrote a book, the 99 Percent Invisible City - A field guide to the hidden world of everyday design.

Of course, there are contributions from Detroit and Michigan to that hidden world. We get into that and more.

If you're interested in the book - I need to get a new copy, I lost it in the studio fire: https://99percentinvisible.org/book/

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