For decades, fusion energy has been the promise that never arrives—always twenty years away. Despite billions poured into tokamaks, inertial confinement, and plasma reactors, the finish line keeps moving. But what if the answer was never in extreme heat... but in solid metal at room temperature?In this explosive episode, we sit down with NASA researcher Lawrence Forsley to explore lattice confined fusion—a revolutionary approach that produces nuclear fusion inside metal lattices using just five volts. No reactors, no plasma, no fire. It’s a direct descendant of the infamous 1989 "cold fusion" press conference by Fleischmann and Pons, which the scientific establishment mocked and buried for decades. But now, the experiments are more precise, the physics more refined, and the implications more profound. Because if fusion at room temperature is real, everything changes—energy, propulsion, even our understanding of stars.PATREON https://www.patreon.com/c/demystifysciPARADIGM DRIFThttps://demystifysci.com/paradigm-drift-show

00:00 Go! Introduction to Lattice Confined Fusion

00:05:59 – Why Fusion Is Always 10 Years Away

00:12:02 – Plasma Instability and Centrifugal Mirrors

00:17:31 – Tritium, Lithium, and Fusion Fuel Supply

00:20:15 – Lessons from Flight and Semiconductors

00:23:14 – Skepticism and Investment Bias in New Tech

00:26:12 – The Long Road to Transistors

00:28:12 – Fusion Weapons and Strategic Research

00:31:39 – Tokamaks and Magnetic Confinement

00:35:40 – Energy Efficiency and Charge Screens

00:39:24 – Superconductors vs. Neutron Radiation

00:43:00 – Cold Neutrons and Fusion Possibilities

00:45:02 – Cold Fusion: Controversy and Skepticism

00:46:24 – Early Experiments and Anomalous Heat

00:49:32 – Tritium Without Neutrons?

00:52:45 – The Cold Fusion Press Conference Fallout

00:57:00 – Explosions, Risks, and Lab Disasters

01:02:40 – Advances in Lattice Confinement

01:06:36 – Fusion in the Cosmos and the Lab

01:09:08 – Webb Telescope and Electron Screening

01:12:00 – Three Types of Electron Screening

01:15:37 – Experimental Techniques in Screening

01:20:05 – Does This Require New Physics?

01:24:51 – Replication Problems in Nuclear Research

01:30:01 – The People Who Shaped the Field

01:33:35 – Richard Garwin and IBM Experiments

01:38:07 – Outdated Tech and Compatibility Nightmares

01:42:00 – Early Atomic Bomb Experiments

01:43:09 – John Heisinger and Cross-Section Studies

01:46:39 – Stellar Fusion and Resonance Phenomena

01:51:31 – Fusion and the Supernova Lifecycle

01:54:57 – Condensed Matter in Proto-Stars

01:55:00 – Magnetic Fields and Star Formation

02:00:00 – The Mystery of Earthly Tritium

02:05:00 – Gamma Rays in Fusion Reactions

02:10:00 – Cold Fusion Funding and Credibility

02:15:00 – Publishing Roadblocks and Ethics

02:17:54 – Fraud in Fusion Research

02:20:15 – New LCF Materials and Neutron Output

02:27:21 – Technetium-99 and Medical Applications

02:33:57 – Future of Fusion Energy Systems

02:40:30 – LCF Networking and NASA Collaborators

02:43:00 – Fusion Architecture and Expert Input

02:46:00 – Building Mental Models of Fusion

02:49:00 – Gamma Rays, Stars, and Spectra

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ABOUS US: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities.

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