What happens when you stop building your life around your work and start building your work around your life? Jason sits down with Ryan Hanley for a wide-ranging conversation covering ITC Agents, the philosophy behind his upcoming book Easy Mode, and why autonomous AI agents may already be the biggest unlock independent agents aren't using.

Key Topics:

How Drake and Ryan grew ITC Agents into a premier event for independent agents

Why ITC Agents and IndieTech offer an unbiased, association-free tech experience

The Download Day and BrainShare format, and how IndieTech adapted it

Ryan's AFib diagnosis and the life reset that followed

Easy Mode: his upcoming book through a Simon & Schuster imprint

The human-optimized business model behind Rogue Risk

Finding employees' easy mode: the Sam the contractor case study

Why LinkedIn's AI conversation is dangerously behind X

The AI slop-shaming trend and why it's the wrong advice

How an autonomous AI agent landed Ryan a book deal in roughly 30 minutes of actual work

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