In this week's week's episode of The Weekly Grill podcast series, host Kerry Lonergan turns up the heat on carbon trading expert, Toby Grogan, from Impact Agriculture.

Carbon credits and carbon trading are arguably some of the most complicated and misunderstood topics in the beef industry today. What are they? How do they work? What's in it for producers?

Currently there are about 150 properties in Australia involved in regulated soil carbon projects, and perhaps a couple of hundred more involved in vegetation management carbon projects, Mr Grogan estimates.

The pair explore issues such as what the carbon trading rules say around a property selling credits, and then seeking to claim carbon abatement as part of beef brand claims.