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In this episode, Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens recap a high-energy week teaching “AI for Fire Investigators” with the Illinois Chapter of the International Association of Arson Investigators in Peoria—what they changed from earlier classes, why transparent prompting and hands-on tools boosted engagement, and how they’ll evolve live demos next time. They unpack a standout burn-cell scenario where a clean-burn sat feet away from the true area of origin, using it to highlight how depth of char and calcination indicate relative heat exposure—not burn time—and why you must articulate origin before cause to survive depositions. Listener mail digs into IAAI Fundamentals vs. the National Fire Academy (NFA) two-week course, plus a candid look at public–private teamwork done right in Illinois. You’ll also hear quick hits on PPE (CleanSpace PAPR), a fall training roundup, and a teaser for the next Ember Cast on Project Fire Buddies. If you’re building your skills—NFPA 921 patterns, ventilation effects, report writing, and AI workflows—this one’s packed with practical takeaways without spoiling the stories.

Illinois Chapter IAAI: https://il-iaai.com

WTF: Upcoming trainings mentioned

• CCAI Annual (CA): Oct 6–9;  arson.org
• West Virginia IAAI: Oct 13–14
• Arkansas IAAI: Oct 14–16
• Alabama IAAI (Orange Beach): Oct 27–29
• Florida IAAI ATC: Nov 3–6 (Scott & Chasity teaching AI)

ITL - CleanSpace Distributor- Tim Costa; [email protected]

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