In this episode of LeadingSmart, host Tim Stevens—with 40 years of leadership experience—continues sharing his 40 Lessons in 40 Years. Joined by cohost Holly Tate, Tim unpacks four powerful lessons that every leader needs to hear.

From learning how to “take your fun with you” in ministry, to remembering that your best ideas won’t come from behind a desk, this episode is packed with practical wisdom and encouraging stories. Tim and Holly also discuss the importance of staying curious as a leader, choosing joy, and always believing the best about others.

Whether you’re leading a church, a nonprofit, or a team in the workplace, these insights will help you lead with wisdom, humility, and joy.

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What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• Why joy is a choice and how to “take your fun with you” into ministry and leadership
• Why the best ideas come when you leave your desk and get close to the people you serve
• How curiosity keeps leaders humble and growing over time
• The discipline of believing the best about others, even when it’s not easy

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