Bisexual Killjoy

S3E8: Liminality as Labor: Class and Bi+ Survival with Alicia Ortiz


Listen Later

Welcome back to Bisexual Killjoy! What does it mean to survive as a bi+ person in a world structured by class? In one of our most expansive and layered conversations to date, Bailey and Jace are joined by educator, activist, and musician Alicia Ortiz to unpack the taboo of talking about class, especially in queer spaces. Together, we explore how class functions as a sticky object in our lives, how bi+ people uniquely navigate systems of poverty and power, and why the myth of meritocracy doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

From identity politics and the legacy of the Combahee River Collective to Olúfẹ́mi Táíwò’s Elite Capture, we examine how movements are co-opted, how queerness is commodified, and how bi+ people are often excluded from both straight and gay narratives of respectability. We also dig into how upward mobility—whether through the military, education, or sex work—is often pathologized, and why coalition-building is essential for a liberated future.

Hosted by bi+ academics, writers, and advocates Bailey Merlin and Jace Rios Rivera, Bisexual Killjoy talks all things bisexual (pansexual, omnisexual, plurisexual, and overall bi+ness) because bisexuality isn’t a phase; it’s a phenomenon. 

Were you a Bisexual Killjoy this week? We want to hear from you! Follow us on @bisexualkilljoy on Instagram or email us at [email protected]

Resources

  • Dalke, Anne. “Classism and the Queer Community.” Serendip Studio, 2013. https://serendipstudio.org/exchange/critical-feminist-studies-2013/ep/web-event-2-classism-and-queer-community 
  • Gaskins, TY. “Black Dandyism Explained—From Its 18th-Century Roots to Modern-Day Expressions.” Vogue. 8 May 2025.  https://www.vogue.com/article/what-is-black-dandyism 
  • Stop Soldier Suicide. “Veteran Suicide Stats.” https://stopsoldiersuicide.org/vet-stats 
  • Táíwò, Olúfẹ́mi O. Elite Capture: How the Powerful Took Over Identity Politics (And Everything Else). Chicago: Haymarket Books. 2022.
  • Where to find Alicia Ortiz

    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alicia.vida.ortiz 
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alicia_vida_ortiz/
    • Classes: https://impactboston.org/in-person-classes/
    • ...more
      View all episodesView all episodes
      Download on the App Store

      Bisexual KilljoyBy bisexualkilljoy

      • 5
      • 5
      • 5
      • 5
      • 5

      5

      40 ratings


      More shows like Bisexual Killjoy

      View all
      Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! by NPR

      Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me!

      38,602 Listeners

      Savage Lovecast by Dan Savage

      Savage Lovecast

      6,143 Listeners

      Pop Culture Happy Hour by NPR

      Pop Culture Happy Hour

      10,919 Listeners

      Multiamory: Rethinking Modern Relationships by Multiamory | Pleasure Podcasts

      Multiamory: Rethinking Modern Relationships

      887 Listeners

      The Daily by The New York Times

      The Daily

      111,154 Listeners

      Ologies with Alie Ward by Alie Ward

      Ologies with Alie Ward

      23,627 Listeners

      Gender Reveal by Tuck Woodstock

      Gender Reveal

      1,234 Listeners

      You're Wrong About by Sarah Marshall

      You're Wrong About

      21,643 Listeners

      Queer Collective Podcast by Queer Collective

      Queer Collective Podcast

      67 Listeners

      Sounds Like A Cult by Studio71

      Sounds Like A Cult

      3,900 Listeners

      The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart by Comedy Central

      The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

      10,351 Listeners

      Bisexual Behavior by Talia Cass

      Bisexual Behavior

      41 Listeners

      Vibe Check by Zach Stafford, Saeed Jones, Sam Sanders

      Vibe Check

      1,693 Listeners

      A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein by Matt Bernstein

      A Bit Fruity with Matt Bernstein

      2,136 Listeners

      Give It To Me Bi by Chad Barnier, Steve Spencer

      Give It To Me Bi

      5 Listeners