In this heartfelt episode, Scott and Deb open their hearts about grief, grace, and the Savior’s power to turn even the hardest parts of our story into something holy. Deb shares the sacred experience behind “Grammy Day” — a personal journey from sorrow to celebration that began with placing a child for adoption at 17. Together, they reflect on how the Savior gives “beauty for ashes” (Isaiah 61:3) and strength in weakness (2 Corinthians 12:9).

Scott weaves in the doctrine of enabling and strengthening grace, reminding listeners that the Atonement of Jesus Christ is not only redemptive but transformative. Through scriptures like Ether 12:27, Alma 7:11–13, and John 14:27, they testify that the Savior meets us in our brokenness — not after we’ve cleaned it up.

This is a story of redemption, of turning grief into gratitude, and of finding peace that the world cannot give. If you’ve ever wondered whether God can make something beautiful out of your pain, this conversation is for you.