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In this interview Mark Van Oppen, a seasoned firefighter with 27 years of experience in California's fire service. They discuss the importance of grounded leadership, the challenges of firefighting in wildland urban interfaces, and the evolving nature of communication across generations. Mark shares his insights on the need for chief officers to stay connected with their crews and the significance of understanding different communication styles in the fire service. The conversation wraps up with reflections on the shared experiences of firefighters and the importance of supporting one another in their challenging roles.

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