Mark and Kenny amp up the drama (and military drums) with special guest Jess Rothschild (host of Hot Takes & Deep Dives and Finding Fire Island) to discuss one of the most vulnerable songs in the entire canon.  Topics include piano deliciousness, public humiliation, ten songwriters, Sean Penn, cinema demos, terrible waiters, Joe’s Pub, and Madonna’s last private relationship.  Plus Jess shares the moment her fitness world collides with Madonna, her personal understanding of heartbreak, and her just-dropped Cult of Body and Soul documentary podcast series.  “More to follow!”