Mark and Kenny break out the guitars, the oracles (and the glue) to examine the folky, funky - even freaky - second track on Rebel Heart.  Topics include the arrival of Aviccii, the Animals’ “House of the Rising Sun”, The Rake and Appalachian folk tunes becoming global anthems, the Madonna rhythm, walking as inspiration, getting high, karaoke voice memos, Emily Witt, higher consciousness, rubber cement, lecturing and hectoring, and protection from the Devil.  Plus, Kenny and Mark take mushrooms “We can get STONED!”

And on the "shadow season” HEART REBEL - a lost protest song that hints at the direction the album really could have taken.  Join the Patreon to listen! https://www.patreon.com/c/alliwant2doistalkaboutmadonna