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S8 Ep. 3: Anne Curzan on Our Changing Language


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Linguist, writer, and professor Anne Curzan joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss how language is constantly changing—and how that’s okay. Curzan talks about how, in her work as an English language historian, she’s learned that people have always been critical of usage changes; Ben Franklin, for instance, didn’t care for colonize as a verb. But, Curzan explains, as much as “grammandos” bemoan the evolution of language, it can’t be stopped—singular “they,” “funnest,” and “very unique” are here to stay. Curzan reads from her book, Says Who? A Kinder, Funner Usage Guide for Everyone Who Cares About Language.


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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.


Anne Curzan

  • Says Who? A Kinder, Funner Usage Guide for Everyone Who Cares About Words
  • “‘They’ has been a singular pronoun for centuries. Don’t let anyone tell you it’s wrong.” | October 21, 2021 | The Washington Post

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    • Declaration of Independence
    • Dreyer’s English: And Utterly Correct Guide to Clarity and Style by Benjamin Dreyer
    • The Elements of Style by William Strunk and E.B. White
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    • Will Shortz
    • Maxine Hong Kingston
    • The American Heritage Dictionary
    • Urban Dictionary
    • Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary
    • Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman

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