Duologue with Leslie Heaney

Safari Secrets - feat. Claudia Church


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An African safari trip is on every person’s bucket list. It’s a once-in-a-lifetime trip.

Because of the cost, difficulties of travel, and the variety of places to visit, a trip to Africa is one that we all want to make sure that we get right. 

So many of us know we want to see incredible animals and breathtaking landscapes – but we have no idea where to start! Thankfully, that is where &Three Collective comes in.

&Three was started by three friends who met as expats in London. With one now based in the US, one in London, and one in Sydney - they are bound by their obsession with Africa. They became a travel company dedicated to Africa - in search of experiences that are wild, luxurious, private and unique.

Along their travels over the years, &Three met Africans who, by birthright, were the true experts in the region, exposing them to experiences that you cannot research or find on your own.

&Three was born from three women’s dream of offering these same incredible experiences to others.

With &Three, travelers embark upon a collaborative planning process. No two itineraries are alike; everything is custom to the traveler and their needs and desires.

I was so lucky (and, of course, was making my own safari plans as we spoke) to speak to one of these wonderful women magicians behind &Three…Claudia Church.

In this episode, Claudia and I talk about the dos and don’ts of safari planning, where and when to start planning, the most amazing places to visit, and the awe-inspiring experiences one can have on the African continent….

I learned so much from my conversation with Claudia, and for any of you who have always dreamed of going on safari or want to go on a trip planned by these incredible women, this episode is for you!

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