This week on the Penguin Podcast, Isy Suttie talks to best-selling author, Salley Vickers.

Salley joins us to talk about her latest novel, The Gardener.

Isy and Salley also discuss psychoanalysis and its benefits, her affection towards children and their curiosity towards the mysteries of life, the power and different layers of silence, and how gardening during lockdown helped with the writing of her latest book. 

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