For our third podcast, German journalist Anke Hofmann met director Sam Esmail in October 2017 at the Four Seasons hotel in Beverly Hills. Esmail, best known for being the creator of the TV show Mr. Robot, revealed that he has always been fascinated with technology and the subculture of hackers, but thinks that conversations and debates are better tools to change the world. As a kid he held Stanley Kubrick festivals at home. He liked the fact he didn't quite understand Kubrick's movies upon first viewing. He also described himself as an arrogant kid who walked out the movie theatre in the middle of E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial. He also told why being heartbroken makes him feel human and what kind of conversation he has with his wife, Emmy Rossum, about the current state of Hollywood. He is currently filming a new series with Julia Roberts called Homecoming based on a podcast that addresses PTSD in the Military.