Sam Warburton + Chris Tombs. Leader + Performance coach. Friend + Business partner.

Sam Warburton captained Wales 49 times, guiding them to a Six Nations grand slam in 2012. He’s probably best known though for leading the British & Irish Lions on two undefeated tours, before being forced to retire at 28. As well as rugby punditry, Sam now has a podcast series of his own, ‘Captains’.

Alongside Sam is his longtime strength and conditioning coach and now business partner, Chris Tombs. Chris worked with Sam at Cardiff Blues from the age of 15 and together they now run the SW7 Academy, which provides elite training programmes to its clients.

Together, they talk about the brutal reality of life as an elite rugby player, the steps Sam takes to mitigate the risk of suffering with dementia, his obsessive approach to nutrition and how overnight success actually takes 15 years to actualise.

This four way conversation was recorded on 9th January 2023.

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