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Sandrine Dixson-Declève and Philip Bateman | What does a truly functioning society look like?


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The current economy is not working. You know this. So what does transitioning to a truly functioning society look like? And for those who say 'well that's too costly' - Sandrine Dixson-Declève calls bullshit.

Together we discuss causes for hope, how societies are responding to the pain of a post 1.5 degree warming world, and what is needed from our Government and Citizen leaders.

If that's you, this short discussion includes the two questions to ask yourself in the mirror, that will let you know if you're on the right path!

We cover a lot of ground in this short discussion;

- European renewable price parity
- Pushback from incumbent fossil producers
- 98% of the European economy is driven by small and medium enterprises whilst regulators and legislators predominantly focus on the 2%
- Marco Lambertini and the Nature Positive Initiative
- CEO pay, inflation and earnings
- Dr. Bronner's 5 to 1 salary cap (I misquoted as 10 to 1)
- Norges Bank, BHP and Fortescue
- How Australia can lead the world at COP31
- A just energy transition inclusive of First Nations

Sandrine is Co-President of The Club of Rome, Author and Chair at Earth4All, and we had this discussion during her presentation at the University of Melbourne's Faculty of Business and Economics, facilitated by Rosemary Addis, whilst she was on tour thanks to the Centre for Policy Development, and supported by Diane Bowles and co on the day. 

Tomorrow I head into the Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC) Climate Finance and Investment Summit, led by Duncan Paterson and titled 'Mission 1.5 degrees' - which is quite the banner headline to be aiming at considering what we know.   

What did you learn in this brief chat, and how honestly can you answer the two questions posed? 

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