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Scott interviews Trita Parsi about the ceasefire and negotiations between the Trump administration and the Iranians. Parsi believes, while this was a strategic defeat for the US, the ceasefire has given Trump the opportunity to walk away with no deal and that that’s likely what he’ll end up doing. Scott and Parsi dig into the specifics and discuss the broader regional dynamic going forward concerning Iran’s proxies and the Israelis.

Discussed on the show:

“How Trump Took the U.S. to War With Iran” (New York Times)

Trita Parsi is the Executive Vice President of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft and the author of Losing an Enemy: Obama, Iran and the Triumph of Diplomacy. Parsi is the recipient of the 2010 Grawemeyer Award for Ideas Improving World Order. Follow him on Twitter @tparsi

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Scott interviews Matt Wolfson about an article he recently wrote about the United Arab Emirates. Wolfson argues that the US and Israel have helped build up the UAE into a regional power with an increasingly interventionist foreign policy of its own.

Discussed on the show:

“The United Arab Emirates: America and Israel’s Frankenstein Monster” (The Libertarian Institute)

“In Strategic Shift, U.S. Draws Closer to Yemeni Rebels” (Wall Street Journal)

“US maintains intelligence relationship with Houthis” (Al-Monitor)

“U.S. intelligence report says key gulf ally meddled in American politics” (Washington Post)

Matt Wolfson is an investigative journalist whose work has appeared in The American Conservative, The Epoch Times, Restoration of America News, and many others. Follow him on Twitter (X) @Oppo__Research and find his full body of work at his website.

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Scott brought Robert Pape of the University of Chicago back to discuss the attempted ceasefire that went into effect on Wednesday night. Pape explains why this is not actually a meaningful step away from the escalation to a full-on war that he’s long been warning about. He also talks about how this is war is cementing Iran’s status as a world power and why he expects the Iranians to abandon their previous stance, begin earnestly pursuing nuclear weapons and attain them quickly.

Discussed on the show:

“The Pause That Isn’t: Why the Iran Ceasefire Changes Everything” (The Escalation Trap)

“The War Is Turning Iran Into a Major World Power” (The New York Times)

Robert A. Pape is Professor of Political Science and Director of the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats and the author of Bombing to Win: Air Power and Coercion in War. Follow him on Twitter @ProfessorPape

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Jason Jones of the Vulnerable People Project returns to the show to give Scott an update on how his organization is working to rescue and rehabilitate the people impacted directly by the escalating violence the Israeli government and Israeli settlers are unleashing across the Middle East.

Discussed on the show:

“Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say” (Scientific American)

Jason Jones is a film producer, author, activist, popular podcast host, and dedicated human rights worker. And he is the founder and president of The Vulnerable People Project. Subscribe to his Substack.

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Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com)

Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw

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Scott interviews Dan Vergano of Scientific American about an article he wrote exposing how scientifically absurd the claim that Iran was close to even having the ability to fully weaponize the enriched Uranium they possessed was when Washington and Tel Aviv launched this war.

Discussed on the show:

“Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say” (Scientific American)

Dan Vergano is senior editor, Washington, D.C., at Scientific American. He has previously written for Grid News, BuzzFeed News, National Geographic and USA Today. He is chair of the New Horizons committee for the Council for the Advancement of Science Writing and a journalism award judge for both the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.

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Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com)

Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw

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Scott interviews Patrick Pillow about Anatomy of a Regime Change, the series he’s writing on the so-called Color Revolutions. While Iraq and Afghanistan get the most attention, the majority of Washington-backed regime change attempts since the end of the Cold War have taken the form of these CIA-organized political revolutions. Scott and Pillow walk through the specifics of several examples and discuss the importance of this often overlooked aspect of American foreign policy.

Discussed on the show:

Libertarian Overwatch

The New Cold War: Revolutions, Rigged Elections, and Pipeline Politics in the Former Soviet Union by Mark A. MacKinnon

Patrick Pillow runs Libertarian Overwatch on Substack.

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Scott brings Larry Johnson back on the show three weeks after his last appearance where Johnson predicted the war with Iran hours before it kicked off. Scott and Johnson examine what’s happened, dig into who’s really calling the shots here, address some of the nonsensical talking points used to make the Iranians out as a unique evil and anticipate what the global consequences of this war will be.

Discussed on the show:

“​​The Failure of US and Israeli Air Defense” (Sonar21)

Larry C. Johnson is a former CIA officer and intelligence analyst, and a former planner and advisor at the US State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. Follow his analysis at Sonar21.

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Scott interviews Joe Kent, the former director of the US National Counterterrorism Center, about what drove him to resign. Kent explains how he saw the Israelis mislead Trump about an Iranian nuclear threat and the supposed fragility of the regime. He also backs up some of the widely attacked claims in his resignation letter about Israeli involvement in getting the US into previous wars in the region, reflects on what the real goals of the Israeli government are with this war, sheds light on Scott’s concerns about significant blowback terrorism in the US and more.

Discussed on the show:

Kent’s letter of resignation

Joe Kent is a retired Army Special Forces soldier who served as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center in Trump’s second term until he resigned in 2026 over the war with Iran. Follow him on Twitter @joekent16jan19

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Scott interviews Israeli geopolitical analyst Shaiel Ben-Ephraim about how Israelis are navigating and thinking about this new war with Iran. He and Scott dig into the differences between the US and Israeli government’s objectives in this war, the distinction between the various factions in Israel, how Netanyahu’s goals differ from the IDF’s and more.

Discussed on the show:

Follow Ben-Ephraim on X

The Grand Reckoning

Shaiel Ben-Ephraim is an Israeli geopolitical analyst, activist, and podcast host. Subscribe to his show The Grand Reckoning and follow him on Twitter @academic_la

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Scott interviews author and scholar Robert Pape about the insights he’s gained from his decades of extensive research into the strategic effectiveness of air power in war. Pape argues that, while modern precision bombs are remarkable at carrying out their tactical functions, they alone are not enough to win wars. And further, the obsession with tactical bombing campaigns can distract decisionmakers from the political dynamics that primarily determine how wars end.

Discussed on the show:

Bombing to Win: Air Power and Coercion in War by Robert A. Pape

The Escalation Trap

Robert A. Pape is Professor of Political Science and Director of the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats and the author of Bombing to Win: Air Power and Coercion in War. Follow him on Twitter @ProfessorPape

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Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com)

Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw

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