Windermere Ask A Coach, Real Talk, Real Results

Season 8 Episode#10. "Referral Success Stories: How David Rush, Jill Sjolin & Rebecca Espinoza Turn Outgoing Referrals Into Profitable Partnerships"


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Michael Fanning - Windermere Ask a Coach Podcast Host

David Rush

  • Experience: 35 years in real estate (since 1990)
  • Market Area: Green Lake and surrounding Central North Seattle neighborhoods
  • Business Focus: Sphere-based business serving longtime clients
  • Contact:

Jill Sjolin

  • Experience: 25 years in real estate
  • Market Area: Woodinville office, serves 405/I-5 corridor from Seattle to Skagit and San Juan counties
  • Specialties: Second homes, island properties, boating clients
  • Background: Former Nordstrom employee
  • Contact:

Rebecca Espinoza

  • Role: Windermere Relocation Referral Services Coordinator
  • Experience: Since late 2015
  • Service Area: Manages referral placements across Windermere's footprint and beyond
  • Contact:
  • Host introduction and guest backgrounds
  • Market areas each agent serves
  • Overview of Windermere's geographic footprint
  • David's early experience trying to manage referrals independently
  • The importance of not working outside your expertise area
  • Jill's confidence in Windermere's network quality
  • Comparison to "Nordstrom of real estate companies"
  • Flexible communication options with referring agents
  • Same-day referral placement examples
  • Rebecca's quick response times and problem-solving
  • Case study: Last-minute weekend referral success
  • International referral capabilities and challenges
  • David's story about Vashon Island referral replacement
  • Jill's experience with client preference mismatches
  • Rebecca's immediate response to issues
  • Importance of follow-up and tracking
  • Average referral fee: $3,200
  • Potential annual income from 4-5 referrals
  • "Surprise check" factor - passive income benefit
  • Importance of detailed client information gathering
  • 2-business-day turnaround standard (often within hours)
  • Geographic scope: Domestic US coverage, some international
  • Leading Real Estate Companies of the World partnership
  • 30-day follow-up protocol
  • Administrative handling and payment guarantee
  • Cost structure: 30% referral fee (20% to referring agent, 6% to network, 4% to department)
  • Conversion rate: 89% vs. 25% industry standard for self-placed referrals
  • Advice for agents considering DIY approach
  • Comparison to FSBO seller mentality
  • Integration into listing presentations
  • Sphere of influence opportunities
  • Retirement relocation trends
  • Multiple-destination shopping support
  • Janet Weldon for Eastern Washington, Idaho, and Montana
  • Encouragement for both agents and potential relocating clients
  • Final advice and contact details for all guests
  • Call to action for ratings and topic suggestions
  • Host contact: [email protected]
  1. Professional referral services provide higher conversion rates (89% vs 25% self-placed)
  2. Average referral fee of $3,200 creates significant passive income opportunity
  3. Quick turnaround times (often same-day placement in populated areas)
  4. Comprehensive geographic coverage across domestic US with international capabilities
  5. Built-in quality control with problem resolution and agent replacement when needed
  6. Administrative burden removed from referring agents with full tracking and payment handling
  • Leading Real Estate Companies of the World network
  • Windermere's franchise footprint
  • International referral partnerships
  • "Getting Referrals Without Asking" by Stacy Brown Randall

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