Guest artist SUSAN SCHUPPLI joins art critic and author ELIZABETH FULLERTON to discuss her art practice via 'The Second Body' 2017 by Daisy Hildyard, published by Fitzcarraldo Books. Listed by the 'White Review' on their Books of the Year 2018, the essay presents the dissolving boundaries between all life on earth, with an updated dualism between the animal bodies in which we eat, breathe, and sleep and the virtual bodies of our global connections and environmental impacts.

Susan and Elizabeth discuss dissolving boundaries, plausible deniability, beached whales, deep time, gathering poems, chattering glaciers, foetus ownership, critical proximity, living on ice, images creating barriers, Princess Diana's wedding dress, bodies eating distance, and changing paradigms. Plus, they question where environmental knowledge resides and which modes of representation might inspire action.

SUSAN SCHUPPLI

susanschuppli.com

@susan_schuppli

'Can the Sun Lie' 

'Cold Rights'

'Earthrise' is a photograph of Earth and some of the Moon 's surface that was taken from lunar orbit by astronaut William Anders on 24 December 24 1968 during the Apollo 8 mission.  

Ultrasound was first used for clinical purposes in mid 1950s but not used widely in British and American hospitals till 1970s for foetus imaging.

In April 1965, 'Life' put a photograph called Foetus 18 Weeks on its cover which caused a sensation. The issue became the fastest-selling copy in the magazine's entire history.

The Keeling Curve is a graph of the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere based on continuous measurements taken at the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii from 1958 to the present day. 

BOOKS + THINKERS

Christina Elizabeth Sharpe, American academic, Professor of English Literature and Black Studies at York University, Toronto, Canada

Daisy Hildyard 'The Footprint's Story: Princess Diana's Jewels and Carbon' Orion magazine, Winter Issue 30 Nov 2022

Dr Adrian Lahoud, Dean of the School of Architecture, Royal College of Art

Joseph Conrad

Silvia Federici 'Caliban and the Witch: : Women, the Body and Primitive Accumulation' 2004

Sven Oskar Lindqvist 'Exterminate all the Brutes: One Man's Odyssey into the Heart of Darkness and the Origins of European Genocide' 2007

Sheila Watt-Cloutier 'The Right to Be Cold: One Woman's Story of Protecting Her Culture, the Arctic and the Whole Planet' 2015

Ursula K Le Guin 'The Carrier Bag Theory of Fiction' 1986

FILM + DIRECTORS

Chantal Akerman

'Nostalgia for the Light' Patricio Guzmán, 2010

Stanley Kubrick '2001: A Space Odyssey' 1968

ORGANISATIONS

Bergin Kunsthalle, Norway

Berlin Biennale

Forensic Architecture

Goldsmiths University

Sculpture Center, New York

Toronto Biennial of Art