On Friday morning, Kane and Kingy were joined by Hawthorn coach Sam Mitchell ahead of their final match of 2022, discussing Ben Rutten's predicament and their management of exit interviews. Heath Shaw explains his ambition to enter into player management, and Sam Edmund breaks the news of Charlie Curnow's re-signing at Carlton. As always, Kane and Kingy tackle the big issues ahead of Round 23: St Kilda's list, Essendon's fractious week, and North Melbourne's pursuit of Alastair Clarkson.