Kooks and Shaun waxing lyrical about the World Cup Final and how the Black Ferns managed to keep the unbelievable forward dominance and driving from the Red Roses at bay long enough to win the title at Eden Park.

We dive into the Springbok loss in Marseilles. the justified red cards with split opinion on the final try. Kooks talks about the Springboks being able to 'rest kickers' after that phenomenal display by not one, or two but three Springboks this weekend.

We talk about watching rugby seated, standing or throwing things and Kooks misses his chance to mention Finn Russell (what is this world coming to?)

Finally we dissent the Springbok Match Day 23 to face Italy. We talk about the 13 position, Evan Roos and Manie Libbok with mention of a 'hold my beer' moment by Jacques Nienaber as he names what IS actually the biggest hitting 10,12 & 13 ever to play Test Rugby