When it comes to traffic, multiple Two Comma Club Award winner Travis Stephenson knows finding your traffic is fine, but owning and controlling your traffic is the ultimate goal. As founder and CEO of Chatmatic, Travis has proven this is possible for even the smallest of businesses, if they only knew how to best take advantage of advancements in messaging automation for Instagram and Messenger.

Dave and Travis have an in-depth chat about how owning and controlling your traffic in these spaces is possible, as well as the seven steps Travis uses as a reliable template for his Perfect Starter Sequence, AKA the lead generation formula that can turn your passing traffic into actual buyers.

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