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Stand-up comedian Suzanne Westenhoefer tells the truth. That’s why she could never be in the closet, even as she stepped out on stage as a comedian in the 1990s. Suzanne experienced her big shift at 29 years old, when she was an aspiring actress working as a bartender. After one of her regulars urged her to try her hand at stand-up over a Finlandia martini, Suzanne was skeptical, but entered an open mic contest.
She easily won… and hasn’t stopped making people laugh since!
As an out lesbian comic, Suzanne has been a true pioneer in the industry, opening new doors and shattering stereotypes for decades. She was the first openly lesbian comedian to appear on Late Night with David Letterman and to have an HBO Special. In this conversation, we talk about Suzanne’s incredible legacy, her current big goals, and one unforgettable road trip of a lifetime!
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Guest bio: No one ever accused Suzanne Westenhoefer of being subtle — certainly not her audiences. After 25 years of groundbreaking, stereotype-shattering, and brutally honest comedy, she is not about to start pulling punches now. The kid from Amish Country who began her comedy career on a dare is celebrating a quarter century of out, open, no-holds-barred comedy.
Timestamps:
01:35 Intro
02:07 Meet Suzanne Westenhoefer
03:09 Suzanne’s big shift into comedy
08:00 “She’s going to be a lesbian & you’d better be nice”
10:01 Professional jealousy & homophobia
15:00 First out lesbian with an HBO special
19:23 HBO Special legacy
21:38 Road trip story
26:33 When you play big, others play big
28:39 Broadway & drama
29:42 The Ellen effect
32:57 Comedy, business & homophobia
36:19 Pandemic shift
38:24 Next shifts
Links:
Suzanne Westenhoefer
https://www.suzannew.com
https://www.facebook.com/suzanne.westenhoefer
Twitter: @szwest1
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Making a shift on your own terms in order to play bigger is challenging enough. But what happens when your successful shift is followed by an unexpected game changer?
Lisa Riley’s entrepreneurial spirit led her to leave the corporate oil and gas industry and enter the paint and sip business, becoming the owner of a Pinot’s Palette franchise in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Since taking the leap, Lisa has expanded to four franchises and celebrated her 10-year anniversary of being in business for herself… and she also received a surprise cancer diagnosis while undergoing a preventative mastectomy.
During our conversation, we talk about Lisa’s incredible cancer survival story, her entrepreneurial journey, and how she managed to increase her revenue while undergoing treatment.
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Lisa Riley is the owner of 4 Pinot’s Palette franchises in the Tulsa, Oklahoma area. Before that, she worked for the QuikTrip Corporation and finished out her corporate oil and gas career at ConocoPhillips. She is a cancer survivor, a mom, a wife and loves living life to the fullest! She has won Women in Business Champion for the City of Tulsa, Small Businessperson of the Year for Broken Arrow and Tulsa, International Franchisee of the Year, and United States Small Business Association Business Person of the Year.
Timestamps
01:48 Intro
02:55 Meet Lisa Riley
05:18 Lisa’s big shifts
08:32 The franchise shift
12:02 Being open to new opportunities
13:25 Saying “no” & delegating
19:12 Biggest challenges & hiring mistakes
24:37 Leading as an empath
26:23 Surviving cancer & stepping back
33:41 Preventative care & check-ups
35:25 Essential service
41:59 Food styling
45:35 Lisa’s next shifts
Links
Lisa Riley
https://www.pinotspalette.com/cherrystreet
Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap and Others Don't by Jim Collins
https://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996
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Interested in working with me or having me speak at your event? Find more information at https://tracyspears.com
Want tools and insights that will help you play bigger in your life, at work, and in your community? Visit my resource library: https://tracyspears.com/blog
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Self-improvement is a top priority for exceptional leaders, but the first step is understanding who you are, why you choose the actions you take, and your impact on those around you. Inner work should be thought of as the powerful and reliable growth strategy that it is. If you want to play a bigger game and increase your capacity to lead, then you need to be ready to build a better version of yourself — and my guest June Miller is an expert at providing people with the tools they need to do so.
June is an intuitive guide and transformational teacher who is committed to helping others see themselves and their contribution to the world. Our conversation covers some big topics, including the power of intentionality and why so many people are afraid of doing inner work. I encourage you to tune in if you’re ready to be inspired and shift your mindset!
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Guest bio: June Miller is a seasoned intuitive guide who has been deeply involved in the personal development space her entire adult life. She is the founder of Raising the World, Inc, a nonprofit working with indigenous communities, as well as the owner/director of Spirit On The Water, a healing retreat center in the US Virgin Islands.
Timestamps:
01:44 Intro
02:33 Meet June Miller
05:24 Setting intentions & strengthening connections
08:03 Building your awareness & listening skills
09:59 Why don’t we trust ourselves?
13:30 The invitation & Spirit On The Water
15:53 June’s big shifts
19:04 Scarcity v. abundance
22:42 Psychedelics & listening
26:08 Trusting the Universe
28:41 Authenticity & wider impact
30:58 Juney Moon: The Journey Begins
35:14 Raising the World
Links:
June Miller
http://www.OhJuneNowWhat.com
https://www.raisingtheworld.com
https://www.spiritonthewater.com
Instagram: @ohjunenowwhat
My Stroke of Insight: A Brain Scientist's Personal Journey by Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor
https://www.amazon.com/My-Stroke-Insight-Scientists-Personal/dp/0452295548
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Want tools and insights that will help you play bigger in your life, at work, and in your community? Visit my resource library: https://tracyspears.com/blog
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Confronting unconscious biases and creating an inclusive, equitable company culture should be at the heart of your mission as a leader. In fact, these are some of the most serious and important leadership challenges today. My guest Kuma Roberts helps teams and organizations change the world, one encounter at a time.
Kuma is the Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer at Arrowhead Consulting, a Tulsa-based boutique project management, leadership development, and executive coaching firm that partners with executives and leadership teams to deepen their commitments to celebrate diversity, champion equity, and cultivate inclusion.
In this discussion, we talk about Kuma’s biggest shift, how she’s building her visioning muscle, and the challenges that people of color face in speaking up, speaking out, and playing big.
Ready for some great insights on how to take more positive action? Listen now to discover:
Guest bio: Kuma Roberts is the Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer at Arrowhead Consulting. She serves on nonprofit boards that align with her passion for ensuring a vibrant and accountable world for us all, including YMCA, Girl Scouts of Eastern Oklahoma, Philbrook Museum, and #RacismStinks. She was named the 2022 Pinnacle Award Corporate Businesswoman of the Year by the YWCA, City of Tulsa, and Commission on the Status of Women, 2022 Workplace Inclusion Advocate for Oklahomans for Equality, as well as the 2020 Keeping the Dream Alive Award by the Martin Luther King Jr. Commemoration Society.
Timestamps:
01:39 Intro
03:11 Meet Kuma Roberts
04:57 Kuma’s big shifts
07:58 Assimilation & smallness
11:49 Living in the space between
13:23 Visioning muscle
14:44 The shift Kuma wants for her audience
19:01 “Linchpin” story & microaggressions
22:55 Creating awareness in 2022
26:48 Cultural shift & leaning in
28:24 Kuma’s next shifts
Links:
Kuma Roberts
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kuma-roberts-iom
Discover your tactical leadership toolkit: https://www.exceptionalleaderslab.com
Interested in working with me or having me speak at your event? Find more information at https://tracyspears.com
Want tools and insights that will help you play bigger in your life, at work, and in your community? Visit my resource library: https://tracyspears.com/blog
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Sometimes, a surprise layoff can be the best thing to happen to your career… and exactly what you need in order to start thinking bigger and shifting out loud.
My guest Wally Schmader is the co-founder of Exceptional Leaders Lab, author of Full Contact Leadership, and co-author of multiple books, including What Exceptional Leaders Know and Leadership is a Verb. Wally and I met and developed our friendship and professional relationship while working in a corporate environment. When a round of layoffs claimed both our jobs, we needed to figure out what we really wanted, make some big decisions — and take a leap of faith.
In this episode, you will get a behind-the-scenes look at the development and operations of Exceptional Leaders Lab, as well as the shifts that sparked our determination to think and play bigger!
Ready to play bigger? Listen now to discover:
Guest bio: Wally Schmader is a highly sought-after leadership coach, thought leader, trainer, and facilitator based in Norfolk, Virginia. He‘s developed programs and content that have influenced thousands of leaders worldwide. Wally’s innovative strategies, ideas, and recommendations have been featured in dozens of publications and media outlets. He‘s coached and advised hundreds of top executives.
Timestamps:
01:48 Intro
03:02 Meet Wally Schmader
04:44 Growing up in business
08:38 Imagining the shift
10:39 Wally’s goal-setting
12:39 The big shift
17:43 Reacting to the shift
20:18 Know what you want (& what to charge)
22:55 Being a good boss & partner
26:47 Pandemic shift
30:43 Big shifts in corporate America
35:18 Leveling Up: How Managers Become Leaders
36:18 Shifts to come
Links:
Wally Schmader
Twitter: @leaderstweets
Full Contact Leadership: Dynamic New Ideas and Techniques for Today's Leaders
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Contact-Leadership-Dynamic-Techniques/dp/0595405924/
Discover your tactical leadership toolkit: https://www.exceptionalleaderslab.com
Interested in working with me or having me speak at your event? Find more information at https://tracyspears.com
Want tools and insights that will help you play bigger in your life, at work, and in your community? Visit my resource library: https://tracyspears.com/blog
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If you want to play bigger, you need to learn how to stand up, speak out, and own your truth. My guest Pam McKissick is a businesswoman, artist, radio host, and co-author of Grab It Back! Equality, Money, Power & Sex, a book about owning your power in the home and the workplace.
Over the course of her career, Pam has not only mastered the art of making bold shifts out loud, she just may be the true inventor of the idea of playing bigger!
From the C-suite to the auction house, Los Angeles to Tulsa, Pam has an impressive track record of building organizations into major brands. Tune in to learn how she shifted from silence into advocating for women, how she keeps her teams accountable, and why I’d love for her to run for office.
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Pam McKissick is a seasoned businesswoman, marketing executive, and radio host, known for her charismatic personality and uncanny ability to transform traditional thinking and chart new paths toward personal and professional growth.
She resides with her partner, Cheryl Gregory, on an 80-acre horse ranch in Tulsa, Oklahoma. They co-own BossMaresArt.com and are co-authors of Grab It Back! Equality, Money, Power & Sex.
Timestamps:
01:58 Meet Pam McKissick
04:49 Pam’s shift-filled journey
08:21 “The lesbian that writes your checks”
12:57 Exploring theology
15:41 Back to L.A.
20:20 TV Guide & auctioneering
22:08 Holding people accountable & caring
25:13 What holds women back?
27:35 Checkbook mistake story
29:14 Challenging self-limiting beliefs & saying your truth
33:23 Our political era
36:05 Incels, Proud Boys & insurrectionists
38:47 BossMaresArt.com
42:09 Mislabeling politicians
45:06 Grab it back & quit trading compliments for cash
Links:
Pam McKissick
https://www.pammckissick.com
https://bossmaresart.com
https://www.amazon.ca/Grab-Back-Equality-Money-Power/dp/1948232308
https://www.facebook.com/PamLMcKissick
Twitter:@PamMcKissick
Feminists: What Were They Thinking? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5419676
Discover your tactical leadership toolkit: https://www.exceptionalleaderslab.com
Interested in working with me or having me speak at your event? Find more information at https://tracyspears.com
Want tools and insights that will help you play bigger in your life, at work, and in your community? Visit my resource library:
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracylspears
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TracySpearsSpeaker
Twitter: @tracylspears
Instagram: @tracylspears
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Even after finding the courage to up their game and step fully onto their path of power, women often have trouble clarifying their true value, asking for what they deserve, and saying no to opportunities that don’t meet their needs. When you’ve been taught all your life to think and play small, how do you make the shift to living the full and fulfilling life you’re meant to live?
My guest Dr. Meg Myers Morgan is a keynote speaker and executive coach who helps her clients develop their leadership skills and achieve clarity in times of overwhelm and change. She’s also an incredibly gifted writer and the author of Everything is Negotiable, a bestseller based on her notable TEDx Talk.
In this conversation, we discuss the power of standing still, why a scarcity mindset will hold you back from playing big, and how to tap into your inner “lighthouse” (don’t worry, we get into it!)
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Dr. Meg Myers Morgan is an award-winning author, keynote speaker, and certified executive coach who works with executives seeking to strengthen their leadership capacity through self-reflection. She is the author of Everything is Negotiable, an associate professor at the University of Oklahoma, and the chair for the Tulsa Mayor's Commission on the Status of Women.
Timestamps
02:50 Meet Meg Myers Morgan
05:27 Early creativity & “sticky” writing
07:50 The Women’s Summit
09:54 The lighthouse & the boats
14:13 Be clear on what you do (and don’t do)
16:22 Pricing
18:03 Everything is Negotiable
20:45 Why don’t we ask for more?
23:10 Shifting into playing bigger
27:02 Self-limiting beliefs
30:10 Introversion & extroversion
32:29 Core values & big fears
35:23 Being “too much”
39:49 Untethering yourself & embracing “more”
43:10 Concierge Key story
46:37 TED Talks
Dr. Meg Myers Morgan
https://www.megmyersmorgan.com
https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Negotiable-Tactics-What-Want/dp/1580057896
https://www.facebook.com/megmyersmorganauthor
Instagram: @megmyersmorgan
TEDx: Negotiating For Your Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT_Kh-_Nb9o
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What does it look like to write your own story? Big Talk Academy founder Tricia Brouk helps her clients become the go-to experts in their fields through tapping into the power of their authentic stories and building industry-leading voices.
Storytelling lies firmly within Tricia’s zone of genius. She’s not only a respected speaker mentor, she’s also a dancer, actress, producer, choreographer, and award-winning filmmaker. Growing up in a small town in Missouri, Tricia knew by the age of seven that she was going to move to Manhattan and become a ballerina—a dream that she achieved at 20 years old, after years of visioning and moving into action. In this conversation, we talk about the power of vision boards, the act of deciding to step into what’s possible, and how Tricia continues to flex her visioning muscle.
Ready to play bigger? Listen now to discover:
Tricia Brouk helps high-performing professionals transform into industry thought leaders through the power of authentic storytelling. She is the founder of Big Talk Academy and was the executive producer of Speakers Who Dare and TEDx Lincoln Square. She is the producer and host of The Big Talk, an award-winning podcast and YouTube channel. Her book, The Influential Voice: Saying What You Mean for Lasting Legacy, was a #1 new release on Amazon.
Timestamps:
02:53 Meet Tricia Brouk
05:30 Visioning muscle
07:03 The “out loud” piece & Tricia’s big stages
10:57 “How” & risk tolerance
12:55 Vision boards
14:01 New York theater story
17:04 Opening the door & playing big
19:08 Connect with your vision
22:02 Sitting with fear & moving story
24:43 What’s next?
Links:
Tricia Brouk
https://triciabrouk.com
https://www.theinfluentialvoicebook.com
https://youtube.com/thebigtalkwithtriciabrouk
IG: @tricia_brouk
The Big Talk Academy
https://www.thebigtalkacademy.com
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-big-talk-with-tricia-brouk/id1151802385
Discover your tactical leadership toolkit: https://www.exceptionalleaderslab.com
Find more information at https://tracyspears.com
Resource library:
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracylspears
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TracySpearsSpeaker
Twitter: @tracylspears
Instagram: @tracylspears
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In this trailer, you'll get a peek behind the scenes of what's to come on the Shift Out Loud podcast!
Hosted by Tracy Spears, speaker, co-author of two best-selling leadership books, founder of Exceptional Leaders Lab, coach, and head cheerleader for anyone trying to play bigger. Shift Out Loud is a podcast designed to inspire you to play bigger. You'll hear from real live people sharing what their shift was, when it happened, and why it was out loud.
What you think is true, and when you move from the external locus of control to the internal locus of control, your shift can happen, and anything becomes possible. This podcast is your invitation to listen to others who have made the shift and also serve as a catalyst for you to play bigger.
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