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Ever feel like you’re speaking English, but your partner hears Martian? You’re not alone. This week on SHIFT Talking, I sat down with Lynn Quinn, author, cognitive architect, and creator of the Four Zones of Communication framework.
We dug into why most of us live on autopilot, how our words betray our real meaning, and the simple shift that can move you out of miscommunication loops and into authentic connection.
Lynn’s work is blunt, practical, and surprisingly soulful. From conflict at home to chaos in crowded households (👋 nine humans under one roof over here), this episode gives you a map for knowing which “zone” you’re in and how to get yourself back into grounded communication before things explode.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
📲 Connect with Lynn Quinn
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What if healing wasn’t about fixing, but about raising your consciousness?
This week on SHIFT Talking, I sat down with Keri Logan, clinical hypnotherapist, author, and creator of Master the Upper Rooms. Keri has spent decades helping people release trauma, forgive the unforgivable, and step into higher states of consciousness where shame, guilt, and fear no longer run the show.
We went deep into human consciousness, forgiveness, parenting wounds, manifestation, past-life imprints, and why “woo woo” work is often just the language we don’t yet understand.
Whether you’re skeptical (like I used to be) or fully open to spiritual frameworks, this episode will stretch you, ground you, and maybe even crack something open.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
📲 Connect with Keri Logan
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Ever wonder why traditional fixes never seem to fix the real problem? This week, I sat down with Dr. Cali Estes, addiction specialist, coach, and biohacking pioneer, who has spent nearly three decades helping people break cycles of overwhelm, addiction, and burnout by addressing the real why behind their struggles.
From Fen-Phen nearly ending her life in the ’90s, to building six companies on manifestation and grit, to now leading programs at the intersection of biohacking, sobriety, and mindset reprogramming, Cali is proof that it’s not about fitting yourself into the box; it’s about breaking the box entirely.
We went deep on what depression really is (and isn’t), why meds aren’t always the answer, the power of universal laws, and how to rewire self-talk to create the life you actually want.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
💛 Connect with Dr. Kelly Estes
📘 Grab the workbook: UnpauseYourLife.com
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If you’ve ever felt like your worth depended on what you did for others, this episode will hit you straight in the nervous system.
I sit down with Barb Nangle, boundaries coach, podcast host, and recovery warrior for a deep conversation about how compulsive people-pleasing, codependency, and religious conditioning shaped her life… until she reclaimed it.
We talk candidly about Barb’s decades in Christian spaces, why the church gave her identity but stole her agency, and how 12-step recovery helped her heal from both addiction and approval-seeking. If you’ve been navigating burnout, over-functioning, or secretly resenting the people you’re always rescuing, this is your episode.
Boundaries. Truth-telling. Recovery. Spiritual reclamation. We’re talking SHIFT.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
00:01 – From addiction to awakening: Barb’s path to recovery
01:56 – What compulsive people-pleasing actually is—and why it’s not selfless
03:17 – Religious trauma, patriarchy, and losing your Self in service
06:34 – Why boundaries are the antidote to burnout
08:42 – The fawn response: when fear shows up as niceness
11:50 – How women are groomed to be over-functioners
14:26 – Church, shame, and the myth of humility
18:10 – How Barb untangled worth from performance
21:23 – 12-step recovery as a path to nervous system regulation
24:50 – The guilt of saying no—and why it’s a sign of growth
27:11 – Healing doesn’t mean you stop caring—it means you stop bleeding
29:38 – Why emotional honesty isn’t optional in leadership
33:05 – From codependent to coach: Barb’s mission now
37:44 – Cultivating healthy selfishness and relational integrity
40:00 – What to do when people don’t like your boundaries
44:17 – The difference between being needed and being whole
48:51 – Self-trust, self-worth, and the return to your truest self
💛 Connect with Barb Nangle
🎧 Listen to her podcast: Fragmented to Whole 🌐 Work with Barb: https://www.f2w.co 📲 Follow on Instagram: @higherpowercoaching
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What if the real fairy tale starts after the wedding?
In this raw, hilarious, and deeply intimate episode, I sit down with Shellie R. Warren, three-time author, marriage life coach, and doula, for a conversation that unpacks what nobody’s telling you about marriage, friendship, sex, and spiritual growth.
From surviving infidelity and rewriting vows, to understanding your body, your partner, and the post-baby version of you, Shellie drops gems like a damn oracle. Together, she and I explore how marriage is built, not just vowed into existence, and why friendship might be your most underrated sex organ. (Yep, we said it.)
This one is not just an episode, it’s a masterclass in intimacy, integrity, and surviving real life together.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
00:01 – Why couples wait too long for help and what to do instead
01:54 – The “oil change” model of marriage maintenance
03:52 – Infidelity, forgiveness, and surviving crisis with friendship as your anchor
06:00 – Why most premarital counseling is trash and what needs to change
07:10 – The real reason people get divorced (hint: it’s not the big stuff)
08:47 – Adult intimacy, postpartum sex, and the grief of “sharing your body”
13:37 – Choose a partner who improves you, not changes you
17:48 – The origin of engagement rings and other capitalist romance lies
21:04 – Childhood wounds, spiritual intimacy, and what we inherit
23:40 – Spit, foreplay, and the sex talk nobody had with you
28:15 – Postpartum identity, consent, and navigating dry seasons
31:53 – Redefining marriage after suicidal crisis: Davina’s personal story
34:24 – Why we marry broken and what it means to heal in relationship
39:43 – Soulmates, sobriety, and rewriting the narrative of love
43:19 – When self-expression feels like rebellion, then becomes liberation
52:02 – Suicide, substance abuse, and the sacred nuance of staying
57:48 – Judaism, interfaith values, and raising kids in modern families
01:13:23 – Sex as spiritual practice, abstinence before marriage, and body counts
01:20:25 – How to actually prioritize sex in a busy, committed marriage
01:29:26 – Culture, censorship, and preserving truth for the next generation
💛 Connect with Shellie R. Warren at: [email protected]
🗣️ Cultural note: "Nosipho" (Zulu) means “God’s blessing to those she's around”, and after this episode, you’ll get why.
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What if the habits you think are “healthy” are actually keeping you stuck?
In this intimate and electrifying conversation, Davina sits down with Habit Freedom author and human behavior specialist Anna Shilina to unpack how trauma shows up in productivity, drinking, “earning” sugar binges, and losing trust in ourselves. From growing up in an immigrant household and escaping into books, to spiraling into alcohol and reclaiming her light, Anna shares the five core relationships that shape our habits and our healing.
If you've ever said “I deserve this” right before self-sabotage or struggled to turn awareness into action, this episode is your wake-up call. We’re talking identity, intergenerational healing, inner child reparenting, and how to rewire your relationship with discomfort, the present moment, and yourself.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
00:04 – From childhood survival to academic addiction
02:00 – The real cost of numbing, even when it looks “productive”
04:48 – Alcohol as a coping strategy and the slow unraveling of self-trust
10:00 – Growing up with personal development (and what it hid)
17:45 – The lonely middle between rock bottom and healing
26:30 – The illusion of “deserving” what harms us
33:40 – Emotional regulation, self-sabotage, and why “better” feels like losing
45:00 – The five relationships of Habit Freedom (discomfort, light, now, self, others)
51:00 – How microdosing numbness robs us of our potential
59:00 – Inner child work and breaking inherited patterns
1:06:00 – Anger, sadness, and why parenting is the ultimate trigger and teacher
1:12:00 – SHIFTing from reactive parenting to relational healing
📲 Connect with Anna Shilina
⚡ Ready to shift? Join my SHIFT program and get the support, skills, and community you need to lead with power, presence, and peace.
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📲 Stay Connected: TikTok: @asteadyspace Instagram & Threads: @asteadyspace YouTube: @asteadyspace Website: www.asteadyspace.com
What happens when the legal system becomes another layer of abuse?
In this fierce and validating conversation, Davina sits down with Lisa Johnson, co-founder of Been There Got Out, to talk about the devastating realities of toxic relationships, high-conflict divorce, and the legal gaslighting survivors face when they try to break free.
Lisa’s mission is personal—and practical. She shares how Been There Got Out equips survivors to protect themselves, document their abuse, navigate the courts, and stay sane through systems designed to destabilize.
This isn’t just about emotional abuse—it’s about the intersection of trauma, parenting, the law, and power. Whether you’re in it, through it, or supporting someone who is, this episode will leave you feeling seen, informed, and ready to advocate.
🔍 In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
03:44 – Client success story: from courtroom survivor to attorney for others
05:15 – Why the family court system retraumatizes survivors
07:28 – What makes a relationship “high conflict” (and who actually causes it)
10:33 – Legal gaslighting, coercive control, and the exhaustion of proof
13:22 – Lisa’s journey from survivor to system disruptor
16:10 – Tips for documenting abuse and preparing for court
19:45 – The emotional whiplash of parenting with a toxic ex
22:50 – How Been There Got Out helps clients stay steady through chaos
26:16 – The importance of peer support when the professionals don’t get it
29:38 – Why healing begins with being believed
32:44 – When friends and therapists miss the red flags
36:10 – The sanity-saving power of shared language and community
38:25 – What Lisa wishes every survivor knew about the “other side”
41:12 – How to find and follow Lisa + Been There Got Out
44:05 – Davina shares her own secondhand witness story
46:30 – Future collabs, podcast swaps, and staying loud together
🧠 Connect with Lisa + Been There Got Out
🌐 Website
📘 Book — Toxic Relationships, High Conflict Divorce & How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances
🎧 Podcast
📺 YouTube Channel
💥 The System Is Hard. You Don’t Have To Do It Alone.
If you’re navigating toxic coparenting, legal trauma, or emotional recovery, SHIFT is here for you. You don’t need permission to reclaim your voice.
🔥 Join the SHIFT: asteadyspace.com/parental-shift
📞 Book a Clarity Call: asteadyspace.com/clarity
💬 Follow the journey: @asteadyspace
Mastering the Mirror: Courage, Growth, and Emotional Truth with Ray Martin
What if your biggest breakthrough was hiding inside your hardest truth?
In this bold, soul-stretching conversation, Davina sits down with Ray Martin—an award-winning business leader, executive coach, and author of Life Without a Tie—to unpack the raw, beautiful unraveling that happens when we finally stop performing and start being.
Ray’s story isn’t one of overnight success or easy transformation. It’s a story of breakdown, burnout, and breakthrough. From the high-flying corporate world to deep inner reckoning, he shares what it took to let go of identity, embrace emotional depth, and redefine success on his terms.
If you’ve ever felt like you're living someone else's life—or like your growth has outpaced your surroundings—this episode is going to hit home.
This is about courage. Self-honesty. And the sacred discomfort that comes with choosing to actually live.
🔍 In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
00:24 – Meet Ray Martin: Coach, author, and corporate dropout
06:12 – The high cost of living out of alignment
10:35 – “You can’t lead others if you won’t lead yourself” — on radical self-honesty
14:50 – Breaking the addiction to achievement and validation
18:27 – Learning to sit with discomfort instead of fixing it
22:11 – How fear keeps men from accessing their emotional truth
27:03 – Why self-reflection is the start—not the end—of growth
31:42 – The difference between intellectual insight and embodied change
35:16 – Davina on parenting boys while dismantling patriarchal messaging
47:24 – Coaching as a sacred container: presence over prescriptions
51:09 – Burnout and reinvention in midlife
58:16 – Navigating relationships with truth, tenderness, and tension
1:02:07 – Davina reflects on shedding performance in marriage and business
1:09:55 – Ray’s personal rituals and anchors for staying steady
1:12:42 – Advice for men in transition: stop striving, start feeling
1:18:46 – Closing reflections: Growth is grief, growth is grace
🧠 Connect with Ray Martin
👉 Website
📘 Life Without a Tie – Grab the book
💥 Ready to Break Your Own Cycle?
The SHIFT is real—and it’s waiting for you. Whether you’re a parent, partner, or human in the middle of your own Becoming, there’s space for you here.
🔥 Join the SHIFT: asteadyspace.com/parental-shift
📞 Book a Clarity Call: asteadyspace.com/clarity
💬 Follow the journey: @yoursteadyspace
🧠 Personality, Parenting & The Power of Knowing Yourself—with Eric Gee
What do sharks, dolphins, and fascists have in common? They're all part of Eric Gee's wild and wickedly accurate personality typing system. In this episode of SHIFT Talking, Davina sits down with Eric Gee, author of The Power of Personality and founder of The Youtopia Project, to unpack why self-awareness isn’t optional, how to decode your kids (and yourself), and what your “deviant role” says about your hidden strengths.
We talk Game of Thrones characters, parent-child dynamics, school trauma, anger expression, and why your quirks aren’t flaws—they’re clues.
If you’ve ever taken a personality quiz and felt unseen, this episode will crack you wide open. And if you're raising kids, married to a mystery, or wondering why you keep ghosting your own goals—Eric’s system might just change your life.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
02:30 – How Eric created The Youtopia Project & his typing methodology
04:50 – What school never taught us about kids' true motivation
08:00 – “Be careful” is killing your kid’s confidence—say this instead
13:10 – How to read your kids and spot their core personality type
17:45 – Sharks, Butterflies & how siblings are built differently
22:00 – Davina’s deviant role: Cult Leader energy (and she owns it)
25:40 – What makes a person who they are—and can we change?
32:00 – The hidden dangers of telling kids who they "should" be
38:15 – Pop culture meets personality: Game of Thrones, Marvel & more
46:00 – How shame, rigidity & insecurity get misdiagnosed as "anger issues"
52:00 – Why confidence is the antidote to bullying
58:00 – Parenting with personality in mind
1:03:00 – Baboons, dolphins, and what makes someone actually magnetic
1:07:00 – The problem with passive-aggressive parenting and praise
1:10:00 – Why we need to raise kids who know themselves
1:16:00 – Where to find Eric and take the quiz yourself
🧭 Connect with Eric Gee
🧠 Take the Personality Quiz: https://youtopiaproject.com
📚 Get the Book – The Power of Personality 📸 Follow on Instagram @thepowerofpersonality
👀 Ready to SHIFT?
✨ Want to know your own deviant archetype? Take Eric’s quiz and DM Davina your results on Instagram.
💬 Ready to regulate your reactions and parent with presence? Join the SHIFT and stop white-knuckling your way through life.
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🔥 Emotional Literacy Isn’t Just for Actors—It’s the Tool You’ve Been Missing
In this mind-bending, soul-stretching episode of SHIFT Talking, Davina sits down with Jim Rojas Taylor—former Marine, actor, author, and emotional literacy evangelist—who flips the script on how we teach regulation, empathy, and confidence. His message is simple but revolutionary: Why are we working so hard to build imaginary people (actors)... and doing so little to build real ones?
Jim breaks down how the same emotional and mental tools used in acting (like the Stanislavski system) are powerful, practical frameworks for real-life regulation, perspective-taking, and identity work. From creating “suits and bubbles” as a child, to transforming classrooms with acting tools, to writing his book All Your Best Selves, Jim is leading the charge in giving people the language and literacy to feel, know, and choose who they are—on and off the stage.
This isn’t woo. It’s wisdom with a workout plan—and it’s the emotional regulation RX the world (and our kids) desperately need.
⏱️ In This Episode, We Talk SHIFT About:
04:00 – “My Suits and Bubbles”: Jim’s inner world at age 4
06:00 – From Marine to musicals: the strange road to emotional mastery
12:30 – Psychodrama, trauma drama, Sense Theatre, and emotional rewiring
15:05 – The 7 Stanislavski Questions and why they’re sonar for your soul
18:00 – “Spiritual shapeshifting” and choosing the best self for the moment
25:00 – Why people fear self-awareness (and how to handle the answers)
28:00 – Emotions are muscles: you get stronger by using them daily
33:00 – Emotional congruence, gendered pain, and raising non-predatory boys
39:00 – How to reach resistant adults without pushing them away
47:30 – The “It Factor” is made, not born—how to build your own
50:00 – Parenting, pressure, and why your kid’s not emotionally behind—they’re overwhelmed
57:00 – How to start when the transformation feels too big
1:05:00 – Dopamine, discipline, and ditching the Reese’s egg (sometimes)
1:20:00 – Stage fright, fourth wall tricks, and helping kids feel safe being seen
🎭 Connect with Jim Rojas Taylor
📘 All Your Best Selves is available on Amazon now
📲 Follow Jim everywhere: @soycandie on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and BlueSky
🌐 soycandie.com (coming soon!)
💥 Want to Build Emotional Literacy at Home?
🧠 Join The SHIFT to rewire your nervous system, break generational cycles, and stop operating from burnout
📅 Book a 90-minute SHIFT Session to build your emotional gym routine
🎧 Catch the next episode of SHIFT Talking for more unfiltered truth about raising humans—including yourself
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Get your SHIFT™ together.
🎙️ SHIFT Talking is where raw truths meet real change. Host Davina Hehn, MA in Forensic & Counseling Psychology, Anger Intelligence™…
Season 2 goes deep on the one emotion everyone's been taught to fix, suppress, or apologize for. We're not here to manage your anger. We're here to help you understand it because when you do, it stops running your relationships on autopilot and starts working for you.
Some episodes are bold solo truths. Others are unfiltered conversations with voices who know what real change actually takes. Always honest, always steady, never sugarcoated.
Ready to stop reacting and start leading yourself? Join SHIFT Live Labs for weekly live coaching, or take the free Anger Archetype Quiz to find out which pattern is running your reactions.
🔥 Your anger isn't the problem. Your relationship with it is. Let's talk some SHIFT™.
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