(Disclaimer: Strong language and adult content)

This one goes deeper than you’d expect.

We revisit our conversation with Nick Bjugstad from the Utah Hockey Club/Mammoth, recorded just before he was traded to St. Louis. It hits a little different now—especially with the team making its first playoff run. We talk about the pressure of being a professional athlete, the expectations, and how it all impacts both his career and his family.

We miss him… and yeah—Go Mammoth!

Then we shift into a powerful conversation with Josh Whatcott, whose journey from 22 years in law enforcement into the world of positive psychology brings a completely different perspective on change, healing, and what it takes to build a life with intention.

Two very different paths.Same question underneath it all:

What actually matters?

If you want to hear the full episodes:

• Nick Bjugstad — May 21, 2025• Josh Whatcott — May 22, 2025

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