With the ever-pressing situation of refugees back in the headlines, Mickey gets on the phone to Ethiopia to talk refugees, camps and coronavirus, and how women and girls are particularly affected, with Betelhem Mengistu, a Community Wellbeing Initiative Co-ordinator for the International Rescue Committee. Hannah's been on the blower to Baltimore to chat to Kate Reed Petty about her amazing debut novel True Story and how her time on a jury in a rape trial inspired it. Then it's off to the Andes In Dunleavy Does Disaster, as we watch Alive. They thought they had problems, Hannah's lost her bingo card. Plus, in the Bush Telegraph, we're giving the Government a U in the A-Level shitshow and ask the Internet Watch Foundation about the true cost of child abuse images online. Thanks for listening. 

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