Mind & Life

Simon Goldberg – The Shape of Healing


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In this episode, Wendy speaks with psychologist and contemplative researcher Simon Goldberg. Simon uses tools drawn from psychotherapy research to better understand the therapeutic processes and outcomes of mindfulness and meditation-based interventions. This conversation covers many topics, including:

  • coming to practice through one's own suffering;
  • what we know from science about whether and how meditation "works;"
  • the nuts and bolts of meditation research, and the importance of control groups;
  • the file drawer effect and publishing negative findings;
  • common factors in healing interventions;
  • working with the self in psychotherapy vs. Buddhism;
  • the critical role of acceptance;
  • some challenges when measuring effects of meditation;
  • individualizing contemplative practice to suit the person;
  • delivering and studying meditation interventions through apps;
  • and the possibilities of AI to help support meditation practice.
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