Today on The Gist, President Trump says he “couldn’t care less” whether Iran negotiations are over because, frankly, they’ve gotten “a little boring.” Mike takes him at his word, which is exactly the problem: when the Strait of Hormuz, gas prices, and the possibility of war are on the table, boredom is not a diplomatic strategy. Then, journalist Simone Stolzoff joins to discuss his new book, How Not to Know: The Value of Uncertainty in a World That Demands Answers. Stolzoff explains why human brains crave prediction, why the internet has made us worse at sitting with ambiguity, and why certainty can become a trap, whether it comes from cults, algorithms, productivity culture, or the false promise that every answer is just one search away. Mike presses him on whether learning to “let go” is a problem of abundance, and whether books about work, anxiety, and uncertainty mostly speak to people whose material problems have already been solved.

Produced by Corey Wara

Edited by Geoff Craig

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