This remastered episode of Sirens revisits the chilling case of William Boudrie, murdered by his ex-wife, Judie Hansen. The crime went unsolved for three decades—hidden in plain sight—until Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation Special Agent in Charge Gary Perkinson stepped in and changed everything.

The episode features remastered audio from our original release, along with personal phone conversations I had with Gary while writing Allegedly: True Crime from Pontotoc County, Oklahoma, where this case is also featured.

Gary, who wrote the foreword and afterword of Allegedly, takes us through his investigation and the work it took to finally bring Judie to justice.

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In this gripping episode, I sit down with journalist and author Tony Adame, the mind behind Chase the Devil: Murder and Obsession on Florida’s Gulf Coast and the award-winning podcast The Sheriff: Murder, Lies & Revenge in Okaloosa County.

We dive into the real-life case that inspired his debut true crime book—a haunting story of manipulation, obsession, and murder set against the backdrop of coastal Florida. The story of Tonya Ethridge McKinley.

Tony shares what it was like to research such an emotionally complex story, how living on the Gulf Coast gave him a unique perspective, and what it takes to turn a criminal case into a compelling long-form narrative.

We also explore the psychological themes at play and how Tony’s background in journalism and podcasting shaped his voice as an author.

Find Chase the Devil anywhere books are sold or at:

Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Books-A-Million

Find Tony Adame's podcast, The Sheriff: Murder, Lies & Revenge in Okaloosa County, on all major podcast platforms.

Listen on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.

Watch Tony on Cold Case Files (Intro with interview from Tony's sister, Renee) S2 E16: The Clock Strikes Murder. Find Cold Case Files on Hulu, A&E, or most streaming platforms.

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I was honored to go on a live radio broadcast show recently called The Opperman Report with host Ed Opperman. We had a great discussion about my true crime books, Allegedly and Sins of the South, and also this podcast! Listen in here or go find his podcast today!

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A quick conversation with experts on strangulation - how easy it is, the stats of domestic violence, and the long-lasting effects it can have.

Strangulation Experts include: Deb Campbell, SANE Nurse; Carrie White, Esquire.

Medical Experts include: Rick Rollins, Critical Care Paramedic; a quick PSA from Dr. Sarah Hull from YouTube.

If you or someone you know is struggling with domestic violence, please seek help at:

National Domestic Violence Hotline, 800-799-7233 or text "BEGIN" to 88788. Find the website here.

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Remastered: Raven and Holly discuss the case of Jennifer Campbell, a domestic violence victim shot and killed by her husband in Ada, Oklahoma.

Find more about Jennifer in Raven's book "Allegedly: True Crime From Pontotoc County, Oklahoma." https://linktr.ee/RavenRollins

Resource Apps discussed for DV: One Love, Aspire News

#domesticviolenceawareness

Originally released on 3/15/2020

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Remastered: Raven and Holly take you back to 2002 Ada, Oklahoma to talk about the case of Rachel Woodall. Tyler "T.J." Mullins was arrested by Ada police after he led them to a body buried in rural Seminole County. The victim was his former girlfriend, Rachel Woodall, 21. Originally released 11/16/2019.

*Domestic Violence*

We also tell you about https://startbybelieving.org/.

Find more about Rachel in Raven's book "Allegedly: True Crime From Pontotoc County, Oklahoma." https://linktr.ee/RavenRollins

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Raven speaks with author and psychotherapist Sagit Schwartz about her new thriller book, Since She's Been Gone. We had a great conversation that also included topics such as: eating disorders, mental health, book trigger warnings and disclaimers, grief, and even went off topic a bit about the romance genre.

Now featured on the podcast Dreadfully Yours, Raven Rollins.

Find Since She's Been Gone anywhere you get your books or on the Zon here: https://amzn.to/483gFui

Find Sagit here: https://sagitschwartz.com, https://www.instagram.com/sagitschwartz/

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From chilling novels and psychological thrillers to horror, film, true crime, and the art of storytelling itself, Dreadfully Yours is a podcast that invites listeners into conversations with the minds behind the stories that stay with us.

Hosted by author, audiobook narrator, and podcaster Raven Rollins, each chapter blends cinematic narration with intimate discussions exploring fear, creativity, obsession, grief, suspense, and the human experiences woven into dark storytelling.

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Raven speaks with David McCloskey, a former CIA Analyst and author of "The Seventh Floor. " We discuss some myths surrounding the CIA - are polygraphs junk science? What actually is a CIA Agent? Is there burnout in the CIA?- as well as writing and his books.

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David's Facebook page David's Website

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Raven and guest co-host Professor Mandy McNeely speak with author Kathy Reichs about her latest Temperance Brennan book, Fire and Bones.

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I Crit You Not: RPG Podcast

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In the sultry haze of summer, when shadows stretch long and secrets simmer, we embark on a gripping journey into the heart of true crime. Our ensemble of remarkable true-crime podcasters has assembled—a collective of voices determined to unravel mysteries, chase justice, and ignite the cold embers of forgotten cases.

True crime isn’t just about facts; it’s about resilience. Families, investigators, and ordinary citizens refuse to let darkness prevail. Their determination fuels our narrative—a beacon against the night.

Picture crimes unfolding against a backdrop of scorching asphalt and sun-drenched streets. Tempers flare, alibis melt, and the mercury rises. These are the stories that sizzle—the ones that demand answers even when the air itself shimmers with tension.

Ghostly echoes of the past linger in the shadows. We’ll breathe life into forgotten victims, reexamining evidence, chasing leads, and daring to ask questions long buried. Perhaps you’ll be the missing piece—the spark that reignites justice’s flame.

Welcome to Hot Pursuit.

In episode 2 you’ll hear from the following podcasters (in order); if you enjoy listening, please check out their podcasts by clicking their link below:

The Dark Oak Podcast

Key to the Case

True Crime Creepers

Vintage Homicide

Excuse Me, That’s Illegal

Beyond the Rainbow

Murder and Mimosas

Coffee and Cases

Method and Madness Podcast