Let’s be honest —  we’re not always naturally drawn toward the suffering of Jesus and his death on the cross. Yet all of us know the experience of struggling through hardship, loss, and distress. Where can we turn to find comfort and strength when we feel crushed underneath the weight of spiritual wrestling, emotional turmoil, or physical pain?

Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi ​help reorient you to the surprising joy found at the cross. You’ll learn how Jesus’ empathy for suffering can become your secret source of strength — finding consolation in sharing the same closeness and comfort that he does with the Father.

(This episode highlights the Take Heart devotionals we read and discuss each morning over breakfast during Soul Shepherding retreats. You can receive a copy of the devotional read today by sending a donation of any amount to Soul Shepherding! The link is below ⬇️)

Resources for this Episode:

• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Unforsaken: Journey with Jesus on the Stations of the Cross
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

All of us long to know with confidence the love and forgiveness that Jesus poured out at the cross. Yet we remain distant from this deeper experience of grace when we lose touch with our bottomless need for Christ or become paralyzed by shame. Thankfully Jesus doesn’t beat us over the head with the cross — he gently woos us back with his unfailing mercy.

Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi ​reflect on a poetic portrayal of the cross from Johann Gerhard, an author of classic Christian devotion. This discussion will help you personalize the cross as you experience Jesus bending down to kiss you, opening his arms to embrace you, and offering you his heart of passion and delight.

(This special episode highlights the Take Heart devotionals we read and discuss each morning over breakfast during Soul Shepherding retreats. You can receive a new devotional sent to your inbox each month by setting up a recurring donation with Soul Shepherding!)

Resources for this Episode:

• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Earn a Certificate in Spiritual Direction
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

Dallas Willard taught us that Jesus offers us a life without lack in the Kingdom of God. But what do we do when experiencing the real pain of unmet needs, unhealed wounds, and unanswered prayers? You can learn to pause and pray — bringing your distresses and desires to Jesus to cultivate a peace and rest that’s rooted in his gentle love, wise leadership, and fierce faithfulness.

Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi talk about following Jesus through the many terrains of the spiritual journey. Praying and meditating on this Dallas-inspired paraphrase of Psalm 23 from will help you trust the Good Shepherd as he leads you into deeper union with God.

(If you want to go deeper into Psalm 23 and the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.)

Resources for this Episode:

• Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live Empowered
• Join Our Free Devotional Email List
• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Earn a Certificate in Spiritual Direction
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

It’s true that our best efforts are good and effective — we are beautifully and wonderfully created by God, after all. Yet it’s easy to slip into self-reliance and try to “make things happen” in our own strength. Instead, we can learn to keep watch with Jesus as we work, joining God’s presence and activity all around us.

Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi share how learning to trust God, instead of relying solely on their own best efforts, transformed their apprenticeship to Jesus and helped them grow in emotional and relational health. This subtle shift in thinking will change how you approach life and ministry — especially during stress, trials, and conflict. You’ll be equipped with a lifelong practice to help you release control to God and find joy in creative partnership with the Good Shepherd.

(If you want to go deeper into the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.)

Resources for this Episode:

• Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live Empowered
• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Earn a Certificate in Spiritual Direction
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

How do we heal, grow, and change as apprentices of Jesus? Many of us have subscribed to the traditional Christian approach of “trying harder” to “believe and do what’s right,” only to find ourselves stuck and discouraged. Thankfully the vision Jesus casts for transformation shows us a different path forward.

Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi share how Dallas Willard’s mantra, “Don’t try — train,” revolutionized their approach to spiritual formation. You’ll burn with a desire to become more loving and healthy and get equipped with a practical tool to help you grow in Christlikeness one area at a time.

If you want to go deeper into the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.

Resources for this Episode:

• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Earn a Certificate in Spiritual Direction
• Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live Empowered
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

Grace is central to our faith yet its meaning is often confused. Mixed messages can leave us in a tug-of-war between “doing nothing” and “trying harder” to earn God's favor. What is grace actually and how does it affect our daily apprenticeship to Jesus?

Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi unpack what they’ve learned about grace from Dallas Willard. Discover how grace can go beyond “undeserved merit” and become fuel for your life, relationships, and ministry. You can set aside pretending, presuming, and pushing to respond to grace and join God’s activity in everything you do! 

(If you want to go deeper into the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.)

Resources for this Episode:

• Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live Empowered
• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Earn a Certificate in Spiritual Direction
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

God is with us always — not only in “big” or “spiritual” moments but also during the ordinary challenges of day-to-day life. Yet it’s tempting to think we’re alone when experiencing stress at work, emotional hurt, or relational challenges. How can we become more aware of Jesus’ presence and live a God-saturated life?

Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi discuss a transformational vision they caught from Dallas Willard — the Kingdom of the Heavens is open, now! Their conversation will stir you to rethink the kind of life that’s possible with Jesus as you learn practical ways to integrate him into your life, ministry, work, challenges, and relationships. 

Resources for this Episode:

• Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live Empowered
• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Earn a Certificate in Spiritual Direction
• Deeply Loved: Receiving and Reflecting God’s Great Empathy for You
• Journey of the Soul: A Practical Guide to Emotional and Spiritual Growth
• Healthy Feelings, Thriving Faith: Growing Emotionally and Spiritually Through the Enneagram
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

If prayer is so foundational to our relationship with Jesus, why do many of us find it so challenging? Maybe you’ve experienced practicing prayer as dutiful — something you do only because you’re “supposed to.” Perhaps you feel discouraged, disoriented, and unsure if talking to God really makes a difference at all.​

Tune in for this updated episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi reflect on the teachings from Dallas Willard that have transformed how they understand and practice prayer. Your desire for prayer will be reignited as you explore the multi-dimensional layers of conversation with Jesus and learn how you can integrate partnership with the Good Shepherd into all of life. 

Resources for this Episode:

• Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live Empowered
• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Prayer Guides Bundle
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

Praying to become more like Jesus can seem out of reach or surface feelings of shame. Yet growing in Christlikeness is a lifelong journey that includes highs and lows, consolations and desolations, and a range of feelings. Regardless of your current spiritual terrain or emotional challenges, your life can become a school for training with Jesus.​

Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi introduce the Apprentice Prayer — a prayer designed to stir your longing for Jesus and paint a picture of what life in the Kingdom of God can look like. This favorite podcast replay will help you connect with Jesus’ grace as you aim to grow and change this new year.

Resources for this Episode:

• Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live Empowered
• Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks

Let’s face it — the chaos of travel, family gatherings, and exchanging presents can cause us to forget the miracle of Christmas. It’s easy to become numb or distracted from the treasure of Jesus. Meditating on Scripture helps us reorient ourselves to the surprising arrival of Immanuel and the stunning reality of his everlasting kingdom.

Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Kristi unpackages the real gift of Christmas using the beautiful words of the prophet Isaiah. This reflection and prayer will stir your longing for more of Jesus and lead you into deeper worship of the One we call Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace.

Resources for this Episode:

• Surprising Joy: A Journey with Jesus for Advent
• Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks